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Kai.Wilson
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 19 Jun 2016    Post subject: Bus licence/7.5 ton Reply with quote

Hey all

Been a while since I posted here but knew BCF would be one for the few places who would know

1st August I start working for First and a bus driver

They pay for your training etc

My question is once I've passed my bus licence would I also be covered in a 7.5 ton vehicle too?

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PostPosted: 22:14 - 19 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automatic gearboxes on buses normally.
7.5t class trucks are usually manual.
Very different beasts. I have driven both for a living.


Some people have grandfather rights to drive this class of truck on their car licence if they passed before 97 I think.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 19 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

97 I was only 5 lol.

So I won't get 7.5 ton rights with a bus licence?

That sucks would have been good to get both in one go
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 19 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, busses are category D and Lorries are Category C so I don't think you will get 7.5T when pass your bus test.

When i applied for my hgv provisional, a couple of weeks ago it was a separate tick on the form for busses and a separate medical
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PostPosted: 06:35 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in hearing what quality, decently paid full time regular work is available for new HGV graduates though?

All previous BCF threads on the subject, say poor driving gigs for newbies and experienced HGV drivers, long hours, crap contracts and working conditions, and the pay has been slashed by foreign drivers and immigrants doing most of it.

I can still see the merit in gaining HGV licencing for personal reasons or as a back up plan, or if your starting a business and need to transport stuff around, but as a deliberate career choice for a young person, what the hells in it for them today??
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PostPosted: 07:08 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being an ex-First driver, I can tell you now they are a shower of shite Evil or Very Mad

As for your licence.... NO you do not get lorry entitlement when you pass your PCV test
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:
Being an ex-First driver, I can tell you now they are a shower of shite Evil or Very Mad

As for your licence.... NO you do not get lorry entitlement when you pass your PCV test


I'm sure it's better then the currently minimum wage call centre I work in now lol
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PostPosted: 07:50 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno a quick look on reed.co.uk suggests that an HGV drivers can get between £9ph and £35k depending on experience etc.

I need 7.5T for personal use, so it's irrelevant
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for a breakdown call centre and the biggest issue most recovery firms are used for HGV experience
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a pal who has driven an artic for the same firm for nearly 28 years.
If he works most weekends, and does as many second loads as he can, he will pull down 50k.
But he rarely sees his wife and works some really anti social hours to get that, 1am starts and that kind of thing.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
I have a pal who has driven an artic for the same firm for nearly 28 years.
If he works most weekends, and does as many second loads as he can, he will pull down 50k.
But he rarely sees his wife and works some really anti social hours to get that, 1am starts and that kind of thing.


Which is probably fine if you're single or hate your wife and kids
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest if you can handle the size of a bus the putting yourself through the HGV probably wouldn't be that hard. Just as mentioned, the different gearbox arrangement might want a few hours practice and the different seating position giving a different view of the road.

You could probably whack it out with a days training!
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think your allowed to carry both licences. You can either have D or C but not both, except for reserved occupations. Certainly remember something like that being said when I did my class 1.

Edit:
Just tried to look it up but can't find anything on it so I guess that is bollocks.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems a bit odd if you can't do both lol
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sainsbury's (class 1) drivers by me are on 35k Shocked

Not bad for just turning a wheel.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I'm interested in hearing what quality, decently paid full time regular work is available for new HGV graduates though?

All previous BCF threads on the subject, say poor driving gigs for newbies and experienced HGV drivers, long hours, crap contracts and working conditions, and the pay has been slashed by foreign drivers and immigrants doing most of it.

I can still see the merit in gaining HGV licencing for personal reasons or as a back up plan, or if your starting a business and need to transport stuff around, but as a deliberate career choice for a young person, what the hells in it for them today??


I'm 28, worked as a live events technician my whole life.

Wanted to become self employed, but wanted a back up job, HGV seemed to fit perfectly, lots of ad-hoc, all hours agency work.

Long story short, within 2 weeks of passing my class 2 license (rigid) I was turning away work. The higher money is generally with the hard work, multidrop, hand ball, long hour shifts.

I'm ok with it, as it's my backup job, so don't mind doing some hideous weeks, but not sure if I could do it full time. I get £12 an hour from an agency, and if I do 5 days, can hit 60-70 hours.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelGrinder wrote:

I'm 28, worked as a live events technician my whole life.

Wanted to become self employed, but wanted a back up job, HGV seemed to fit perfectly, lots of ad-hoc, all hours agency work.

Long story short, within 2 weeks of passing my class 2 license (rigid) I was turning away work. The higher money is generally with the hard work, multidrop, hand ball, long hour shifts.

I'm ok with it, as it's my backup job, so don't mind doing some hideous weeks, but not sure if I could do it full time. I get £12 an hour from an agency, and if I do 5 days, can hit 60-70 hours.


How does that work with drivers hours do you get paid for your breaks and stuff
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aky208 wrote:
I don't think your allowed to carry both licences. You can either have D or C but not both, except for reserved occupations. Certainly remember something like that being said when I did my class 1.

Edit:
Just tried to look it up but can't find anything on it so I guess that is bollocks.


I`ve had both since 1986.

duhawkz wrote:
grr666 wrote:

If he works most weekends, and does as many second loads as he can, he will pull down 50k.
But he rarely sees his wife and works some really anti social hours to get that, 1am starts and that kind of thing.


Which is probably fine if you're single or hate your wife and kids


or you live in the south with an extortionate mortgage.

duhawkz wrote:

How does that work with drivers hours do you get paid for your breaks and stuff


I don`t know of any employer that has paid meal breaks..

unless some one knows different

andym wrote:
Being an ex-First driver, I can tell you now they are a shower of shite Evil or Very Mad


you can add stagecoach & go-ahead to that list aswell
andym wrote:

As for your licence.... NO you do not get lorry entitlement when you pass your PCV test


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J4mes wrote:
To be honest if you can handle the size of a bus the putting yourself through the HGV probably wouldn't be that hard. Just as mentioned, the different gearbox arrangement might want a few hours practice and the different seating position giving a different view of the road.

You could probably whack it out with a days training!


a bus is a lot more maneuverable than an HGV ... even a 12meter single deck Dennis SLF.

a coach is the same as a HGV.

the rules on auto/ manual have changed .. if you have a manual car licence then you will get a manual PSV regardless of what you take your test in..

iirc. its the same for HGV.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys

Even at the £11 they pay it's still a huge jump from the pay I'm on now
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