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| cdlxxvi |
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 cdlxxvi Nearly there...
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 Posted: 09:13 - 01 Jul 2016 Post subject: 'Twas but Project Fear, one week later |
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Of course it is too early for concrete data about investment, output, inflation, GDP and employment - for now we can only look at the markets.
Also, in the last week nothing happened but a giant opinion poll. Article 50 was not invoked, negotiations have not started, there is even no credible declaration what anyone wants to achieve in the end.
On with the show, then.
GBP/USD is 7.68% down to 1.33. We already start seeing it at the petrol pumps.
GBP/EUR is 6.86% down to 1.20. This should be noticed before making any "weak Europe will bow to our upper hand and give us a trade deal made of win and sweetness" noises.
FTSE 100 is 2.62% up to 6504. There was no bank run and a general crash of multinationals - after a brief panic everyone realised that indeed nothing happened this week. The worrying bit is banks taking a beating (RBS.L down 31.5%), as it may harm tax revenue.
FTSE 250 is down 6.13% to 16721. This is sad. Consider the example of DFS.L (down 29.18%) - the outlook is that making soft things for people of Britain to sit on will soon stop being profitable. Brexit doesn't change the nature of human bottoms, so this leaves us with a prediction that the soft things will not be affordable.
Considering again that this is a reaction to just an opinion poll, it doesn't look good. |
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On the other side, we have an increase of Brexit based threads.
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Oh noes.
Falling interest rates and increasing inflation. What a horrifying prospect for someone with a 20 year mortgage.
Carry on. At this rate they'll be paying me. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| JonB wrote: | price inflation on key commodities of around 16/17% in July compared to June. |
The £ has bought about $1.43 for most of this year, peaking at $1.50 for a few days before the vote. Today it buys $1.33.
I'm sure your finance people have whizzy calculators, but my primitive computations make that about a 7.5% different rather than 16/17%.
Still, your calculation is more dramatic, and feelings are more important than facts. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| JonB wrote: | | Rob Fzs wrote: | Pound is stupidly high and needs to go lower, already seeing better returns on my exports now
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more tax for the black hole. |
I don't understand that argument.
I work for a food manufacturer. Our purchasing team have had glum faces for the past few days.
Most ingredients are traded in dollars if not bought from the UK (and trust me - try growing cocoa beans for example in the UK).
I was told yesterday that we are looking at price inflation on key commodities of around 16/17% in July compared to June. We had been running at about 1% beforehand.
So, we export too, but our products are now costing 10% more expensive on average to produce. How does the pound dropping by 7% against the Euro help us out at all?
Secondly, exports only account for around 10% of our sales. So the man on brexit street certainly won't benefit. |
Hard luck, cut costs, that's what we've been doing for the last 24 months and now will reap the benefits, from what i've seen cocoa, soya are all on the way up, regardless of brexit because of a bad harvest, unless brexit causes bad weather anorl? ____________________ '00 Aprilia RS50 > '92 Honda CG > '99 Yamaha Fazer > '91 Yamaha RXS > '79 Suzuki X5 > 01' Honda Cg > 07' Honda Cg > 82' Kawasaki Z200 > suzuki gsxr 400 gk73a > honda vfr 400 NC30> Yamaha RD350 YPVS F2 > Kawasaki ZZR 600 D1 > Yamaha TZR 250 2MA >Suzuki TL1000R > Yamaha TDR250 > Honda 929 blade > Suzuki SV1000 > Honda H100
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Finally, a brexit plan.
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The law is not of their side if they do bite their thumbs at him, sir. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | | cdlxxvi wrote: | As real data will trickle in we will have more to discuss. |
As the possibility of Article 50 ever being invoked becomes less likely, with every passing day, I'm not sure what we'll be discussing! |
Everything will be just great. Although because of the uncertainty nobody will invest or do a big deal here in the foreseeable future.
And nobody is spending any money, the comercial property trade has stopped long time ago, nobody in his right mind is sellng or buying properties and this will not change soon, and nobody is buying new cars. BoE has cuts growth forecasts.
What could go wrong? Do not listen to doom and gloom. Wait for more "real" data. ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 182 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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