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 Posted: 11:50 - 25 Sep 2016 Post subject: Winter Riding Gear |
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Hi guys,
With Winter on its way, I want to be well prepared for when it does. Unfortunately, I don't have enough money to spooge in one go, so I'll be using the Autumn months to build up a winterproof collection.
I ride a Kawasaki ER5, so I have no fairings or anything. I work in an office, so wear a shirt and trousers.
At the moment, I wear a leather Triumph jacket (£40 bargain from Gumtree,) some armoured Goretex trousers over the top of my work trousers and although I do have motorbike boots, they really mess up my work trousers, so I wear big thick hiking boots - not ideal. I have some proper ankle boots in mind, just need the cash to buy them.
Bar muffs are definitely on my list. I'm going to get some of the Oxford ones on payday. I was thinking of getting some hand guards too as I've read that muffs can affect how easy it is to reach the levers (or will press it down slightly due to wind.)
I have a feeling though that I am going to still be freezing my nads off.
I do have a pair of kinda long johns used for camping. So I'll be trying them out under my work trousers to see if that helps.
I'm a big guy, so I really don't want to wear a one-piece suit. I'll end up looking like Nacho Libre.
What would you recommend for riding through winter given my situation? ____________________ 2008 Aprilia Sportcity 250 |
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| Snowdonia Rider |
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Once you get wet it's game over. I'd look out for water proofs you can put over your gear  ____________________ I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
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| Alpineandy |
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It would be wise for you to look for options of changing at work.
Whether you leave your suit there or carry it every day is up to you but when it gets real cold something thicker than suit trousers would be beneficial.
As already mentioned, water-proof is 'A+' important.
Windproof is 'A' Important as well.
Have a look on the Bay of Es, Discount sports shops, machine Mart type places, Makros and even supermarket clothing sections (inc Lidl/Aldi) for things like waterproof socks, windproof long johns/base layers. They may be marked for cycling, Ski-wear, outside work-wear or pretty much anything, especially military.
As mentioned, Army surplus is a strong option for you.
Do get a wind/waterproof neck bib as cold water dribbling down your back is quite distracting.  ____________________ The above comment isn't necessarily the truth and anyone that says it is, is only correct if it's the truth or they're bigger than me.
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 Posted: 15:07 - 25 Sep 2016 Post subject: Re: Winter Riding Gear |
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First things first; ACF-50 and clean bike as soon as.. I'm sure we've been over this so may be irrelevant.
| MahatmaAndhi wrote: | I ride a Kawasaki ER5, so I have no fairings or anything. I work in an office, so wear a shirt and trousers.
At the moment, I wear a leather Triumph jacket (£40 bargain from Gumtree,) some armoured Goretex trousers over the top of my work trousers and although I do have motorbike boots, they really mess up my work trousers, so I wear big thick hiking boots - not ideal. I have some proper ankle boots in mind, just need the cash to buy them. |
If you're worried about work gear then iron at home and put in tailbag ready for commute and get dressed at either end, the real answer as I've said before elsewhere given that I work in smart trousers but don't really have to look presentable to the queen is give up caring because you're never going to win, you ride a bike and that's it deal with the faff or find elsewhere methods of commuting. Not to sound harsh but is the truth in my view.
Hoodie/Jumper under the jacket and a waterproof coat over it, that is unless the jacket already has a built in thermal layer. Base layer top as well if you're going to put work clothes in a tailbag. Alternative would be to get a cheap textile jacket. I'd go with the cheapest option first and see how far you can get before you need alternative gear. RST Blade served me well last winter with nothing but cotton shirt underneath and wasn't cold one bit. Importantly make sure you can zip bottoms and jacket together.
Soak it up and put the boots on for two-three months, rather proper gear and arrive dry and warm in the feet than otherwise, built for purpose and all and then swap out post winter to whatever.
| MahatmaAndhi wrote: | Bar muffs are definitely on my list. I'm going to get some of the Oxford ones on payday. I was thinking of getting some hand guards too as I've read that muffs can affect how easy it is to reach the levers (or will press it down slightly due to wind.) |
Have a look on eBay before you spunk £30 because both second hand cheaper sales of the same product and alternative cheaper options are available. Everyone's set up is different and I've managed thus far on naked bike with no heated grips, hand guards or muffs, sure my hands have gotten cold so I've gone for a cheapo inner glove and see how far that all get me this time round before I look elsewhere. Cheap heated grips are available on eBay for sub £10.
| MahatmaAndhi wrote: | I have a feeling though that I am going to still be freezing my nads off.
What would you recommend for riding through winter given my situation? |
First winters always a learning curve. Have the funds to pick up bits as you need them and you'll be fine.
Boots I've never had an issue with. Set of decent textiles with thermal layer has always kept me warm (RST) and helmet with a pinlock is a must. Balaclava may also help, I recommend Forcefield but I'm sure they all do the same thing.
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Your ER5 have a drum or disc? Keep an eye on if drum because winter loves to attack, gunk and seize them up. Well, my rear drum anyway I'd assume it's a universal rule of thumb given simple design.
Keep on top of cleaning and lubing chain. Daily checks of the pressures in tyres.
ER5 is carbed, right? Expect much slower warm up times and more standing around and waiting to get going.
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Take the weather as it comes and only ride in conditions that you feel comfortable with.
Winters not all that bad as it's about the only time of the year that I manage to unlock, load up, warm up and ride away before my work colleges in their cars do. Nothing more satisfying than wiping the clocks and mirrors meanwhile they stand around like lost souls trying to defrost their windscreen, every year I tell them.. nothing changes. Oh, on that note, expect car drivers with small holes in fully frosted windscreens because couldn't be arsed to wait and in a rush, will happen.
Stay warm and focused and you'll be alright. Moment you get cold or wet it will go downhill quickly and wont get any better.
Enjoy. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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Long journey freezing cold and dry I use salopettes over leathers and thermal long johns.
On top it's thermal base layer x2. A long sleeved top that has windproof panels on the chest and front of sleeves. Leather jacket/Textile jacket and padded bodywarmer.
Woolen socks and goretex oversocks.
Goretex Touring boots.
All in 1 rainsuit.
Thermal glove liner. A*365 gloves.
Urbano Muffs.
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I commute all year round, my work clothes live in my office drawer being brought folded neatly in a bag and taken home for washing as required.
under my bike gear i wear a baselayer, t shirt, jumper etc, on my legs I wear cycling leggings under my bike trousers (I wear textiles with thermal layers in)
I've recently been sold a halversons jacket and Jofama trousers which I'm told are the bees knees in winter / all year riding gear (jofama being their entry brand) ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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+1 for Ski\Snowboard gear. Its good when it's in the 0°c range over your leathers, tracksuit bottoms, long johns ect...just Baggy as hell.
Gortex\waterproof socks, over regular socks.
I'm considering getting some waterproof overgloves. Tried muffs but found them a pain in the rain (trying to get your hand back into the muff  ____________________ Sent from Samsmums mobile using Tapanarse |
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Last winter, I did a bit of bike commuting, and my formula was 2-piece leathers and a 70L+ rucksack (which appears quite small when there's little in it). Reaching my workplace(s), I put the trousers, gloves and boots in the rucksack, and carried the jacket and helmet in separately. It was necessary to spray the leathers with waterproofing stuff (you get this from shoe shops). It really works, and you need it if you want to go with leathers. So, riding in to work, I wore my (treated) leathers and was wearing trousers and a shirt and tie under the leathers. Inside the backpack, I kept my blazer, my work ID, my lunch and my nice shoes.
If you choose this portable formula, take note that although it works, its weak spot is cold legs syndrome, so you might want to consider long johns. Cold legs can make things really unpleasant during winter. Also, there is a certain time you have to spend getting changed when and where you park.
There is another neat trick: wear a scarf. If your neck is warm, you are warm. ____________________ Safety in numbers |
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my winter gear is as below
£70 - textile jacket from aldi
Winter gloves (or close to), currently rst paragon v gloves (£50?)
"texspeed" waterproof armoured trousers = £35
does me well, don't use any fancy warming gadgets and not had any particular issues, anything more than this and you just need to man up
forgot to add wear a 'buff' thing around your neck/jaw. I actually wear these year round as they make it easier to get my lid over my ears properly and i get a seriously painful jaw otherwise, these keep your jaw warm surprisingly well for such thin material ____________________ Current: Honda City Fly CLR125 2003 Honda CB600F Hornet 2008 Yamaha FZ6 S2 + 1991 Kawasaki GPZ500
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| Shinigami wrote: | my winter gear is as below
£70 - textile jacket from aldi
Winter gloves (or close to), currently rst paragon v gloves (£50?)
"texspeed" waterproof armoured trousers = £35
does me well, don't use any fancy warming gadgets and not had any particular issues, anything more than this and you just need to man up
forgot to add wear a 'buff' thing around your neck/jaw. I actually wear these year round as they make it easier to get my lid over my ears properly and i get a seriously painful jaw otherwise, these keep your jaw warm surprisingly well for such thin material |
You clearly don't ride 80 miles a day year round, 60 miles of it at motorway speeds then.... |
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Layers layers layers.
Winter gloves for me are a size bigger then my summer ones with a pair of thin silk under gloves worn separately underneath them.
Moisture wicking thin socks with thicker merino wool socks over the top.
Good quality thermal base layers top and bottom - keeps moisture under control and keeps the heat in. A warm core keeps the extremities warm for longer.
Thick Balaclava (not much hair left) neck thing under the lid - tucks in well below the jacket collar. Keeps the cold out and also bugs and stuff out - anyone that has had a wasp disappear down their jacket / smack into their bare neck will not be in a rush to repeat the experience.
That stood me well back in March/April 2015 when it was well into the minus figures before adding 70mph of windchill. A warm dry biker is a happy biker  ____________________ 2017 Z1000SX |
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my waterproof hi viz jacket has never leaked yet
in fact the one I used at the track was that good I tend to stand in a field in the rain for about 8 hours some weeks I bought one especially for use on the bike
it is warm and dry and people think you are a copper on a bike so tend to notice you a bit more  ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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