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bigdom86
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: DAS Reply with quote

hi all
just getting ready to book my DAS after 2 years on a tiddler, went for an assessment day and they recommended the fast course for me which is
£500
day 1 - mod 1 training
day 2 - mod2 training
day 3 - both tests

i am slightly worried about failing mod1 and losing my mod2 fee though

other option is

1 day mod1 training and 1/2 day test = 329
1 day mod2 training and 1/2 day test = 355
total 684

not sure whether to risk it and go for fast track or to do it step by step mod1 then mod 2
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Death or glory.

Do the fast track and stop fucking about.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you fail, you fail. you're not going to know the outcome until you actually do it.

i passed first time when i didnt expect to.
my mate failed his first mod 2 when he was confident he would pass. its luck mostly (and my superior ability over his )

get it booked. see if you can book mod 2 far enough after mod 1 than IF you fail mod1, you can get a rebook in for a second go at it before you lose the mod2 booking Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: re Reply with quote

with the intense course it is 3 days in a row so you cant book mod2 far enough to not lose the money if you fail. i guess that is how the schools make some extra money. ill sleep on it tonight and have a think. i suppose if i failed on the intense course mod1 it is around 100 to repeat the test and around 150ish for mod2
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did both my tests on the same day (and passed), so if a sperg like me can do it you definitely can. I only had 1 year on a tiddler as well.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
i sound like a lady


If you can ride a bike then you can pass a test.

I passed it all first time, twice.

As far as i can see, you have 2 options.

Do the Fast track
or
Change name to BigDiana86
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

BikeDoctor wrote:
MOD 1 is easy. I'm a 3 time undefeated world champion.


Never done a Mod2 in your life though.

And...
https://i.imgur.com/UERZ0Z9.gif
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add a little more... I struggled with Mod 1 stuff. Obviously I don't have <insert today's name> level of skill, but I still passed. Anyhoo the point I wanted to make was part of the reason I struggled was that I got on the bike (a Bandit) and went straight into Mod 1 practice. On test day we had a long ride to the test centre and I got a feel for the bike, that's honestly why I think I passed. That's the danger with the intensive course, it doesn't allow for you to have difficulty with anything.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
with the intense course it is 3 days in a row so you cant book mod2 far enough to not lose the money if you fail


Depends which school you use. Some leave a gap between the Mod1 and 2 just in case you fail. They have test slots block booked so you can get another Mod1 in before the Mod2 is due, or just shift the Mod2 back a few days.

I would look around before stumping up your money to a school that can't be flexible.
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod 1 is only £15 ish and can be taken on a 125, although it won't count for your DAS.

Why don't you give it a go first on your tiddler? It's minimal cost, you can turn up and do it by yourself without needing the instructor and if you can nail it on the tiddler, you should be able to do easily on the big boy bike after a days training?


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PostPosted: 16:45 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: No winner. Reply with quote

Nobody benifits ìf you fail mod 1. No refund for mod 2, can't get someone else on it. Slot empty, examiner sits around for an hour. Only if it were last test and examiner got an early finish would someone actually gain.
Also, £500 for what your getting seems expensive.....are you located where there's no competition?
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
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I would look around before stumping up your money to a school that can't be flexible.


this. the school i used did this very thing and were reasonably flexible about it
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

BikeDoctor wrote:
Assuming you do then all as you need the training school for is their bike nothing less nothing more.

And their insurance, and instructor, and fuel.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:

Depends which school you use. Some leave a gap between the Mod1 and 2 just in case you fail. They have test slots block booked so you can get another Mod1 in before the Mod2 is due, or just shift the Mod2 back a few days.


You have to leave a gap of three working days if you fail mod 1 to book it again though. So if you fail it on a Monday you wouldnt be able to do it until the Friday (I think thats right)

The school I used dedicated 1 day of the week to tests so that the instructor and bike is only off the road (not doing lessons) for 1 day.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

techsnap wrote:
Mod 1 is only £15 ish and can be taken on a 125, although it won't count for your DAS.

Why don't you give it a go first on your tiddler? It's minimal cost, you can turn up and do it by yourself without needing the instructor and if you can nail it on the tiddler, you should be able to do easily on the big boy bike after a days training?

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Repeated for emphasis. It's the cheapest real world practice you can do. No faffing, go and book it now.

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PostPosted: 18:33 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing as you've been riding a tiddler for a couple of years, I wouldn't bother with DAS.

Find a school that'll give you an hours lesson just practicing mod 1, then book mod 1 test.

Ask same school for a couple of hours lesson practicing mod 2 (preferably on the test route(s). Book mod 2.

This is more or less what I did and although it didn't go exactly to plan (ie: I didn't pass first time) it still worked out cheaper than DAS.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

500 is steep.

All in with cbt I paid 550. That included CBTday, 4 days worth of training, plus the two half mornings for both mod 1 and 2.

Fyi, Swindon ABC motorcycle training.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re Reply with quote

Think ill just do my tests on 125 now for practise then go for it. I live in croydon se london and pretty much all schools round here charge similar money for das and training usually around £600-700.london prices i guess. Have thought of borrowing my friend's and insuring but would cost alot as is a fairly new gsxr600
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
I'm going to change my name to BigDiane86


Edited for accuracy.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
Think ill just do my tests on 125 now for practise then go for it. I live in croydon se london and pretty much all schools round here charge similar money for das and training usually around £600-700.london prices i guess. Have thought of borrowing my friend's and insuring but would cost alot as is a fairly new gsxr600

Test or tests? I wouldn't bother with Mod 2, Mod 1's a cheap bit of practice. I did my tests in Sutton, it was cheap but the school was crap (£360 each for myself and a friend). That was with a winter training deal.

If you know someone else who wants to do their tests then it might be worth doing. Camrider Hendon (who are highly rated) have also done winter deals in the past.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

KRM wrote:
You have to leave a gap of three working days if you fail mod 1 to book it again though.


That's right. Some schools actually have the Mod 2 a week after Mod 1 to allow for that. The ride over to the test centre with the students is used as a short lesson.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Re Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Camrider Hendon (who are highly rated) have also done winter deals in the past.

Hmm... doesn't seem to exist anymore, Lea Valley's the closest. They don't appear to have a winter sale on (iirc they normally start in October), but they have a 2 person discount:
Two people train together on a full test course, same dates and times. First person pays full course training fees, 2nd person gets a 20% discount off their training fees. Both must pay government test fees. Insurance collision damage waiver is an optional extra.

I think it's £900 in total so only £50 off for each person. Might be worth seeing what pops up next month.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found Mod 1 hardest out of the 2, although I think alot of that was due me trying to beat the new licensing laws Laughing

You've been riding (well?) for 2 years, so you should have the basics mastered by now.
If not, buy a cheap set of cones and practice the MOD 1 setup, hell even the measurements are available online if you've got a space big enough.

The point I'm making is, you're in no rush.
So sleep on it some more Cool

TLDR: Buy a R1 straight after Mod 2
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