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 Posted: 13:21 - 04 Oct 2016 Post subject: Will the depressed pound equal price hikes for bikes? |
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In the great depression/bankers folly of 2008 one of the consequences was a real change in the value of the pound to the euro. A knock on effect was a glut of Europeans coming over here and snapping up cheap (to them) bikes, both new and used. The price of new bikes rose sharply around 2010 to compensate for the change in the pound.
Must be a possibility again with the whole Brexit deal affecting the value of the pound so significantly.
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Can't see how it won't.
Long term, we might see a change in import duty on bikes.
Not necessarily for the better.
Euro4-bollocks is going to be a boot in the wallet as well.
I'm surprised that prices haven't shot up yet, but given how much got lopped off the sticker price of the ER6 and SFV650 when the MT-07 came out and undercut them, perhaps there's far more fat to trim from new bike prices than dealers like to claim. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's already having a noticeable effect if you buy parts etc from abroad I'm already seeing price increases of stuff I look to import, of around 10-15%. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Which is why I jumped in quick and bought new this year.  ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Just done a bit of digging:
Original Yamaha R1 RRP £9,200 stayed the same for nigh on 10 years, 2007 R1 was actually less at £9,000! then the crash and the progressive rise, 2009 - 20011 was £10k then 2012 went up to £12k, finally the current R1 is 15k.
So in the first 10 years there was no inflation of the RRP, in the following period the price is over half again as much.
Now i accept that the current R1 is more of a revolution than an evolution and you explains a lot of the price increase. Maybe the change in price is a fairer reflection? After all i can't think of many things that stay the same price for 10 or more years? (disregarding things that don't receive updates and development). ____________________ Hornet 600, CBR600F, 929 blade, 07 R1, R1200GS, 09 Blade, 750 SRAD, ZZR1200, 954 Blade, KTM 990 Adventure, Ducati 749s |
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| stevo as b4 wrote: | The boring bastards like me that are stuck in the 1985-2005 era never saw better bargains and so much bike for such reasonable cash. |
We've been through this before. Inflation is a thing. Deal with it.
£8800 in 1998 is equivalent to £14,500 today. The only anomaly is that motorcycle prices resisted inflationary pressure between the late 90s and ~2008/9, mainly because of a strong Pound (cheap imports). Which is exactly what we don't have now, and haven't really had (in any sustained manner) since 2008. So, the price is the price, and it's on trend, long term. There is no conspiracy to milk the customer.
That aside, the R1 in particular has moved up market. Yamaha want to compete with Ducati, not Suzuki or Kawasaki, or even Honda. The R1 has always been a premium product, but that's probably truer than ever, and there's an awful lot of R&D to recoup.
| stevo as b4 wrote: | The thing is I look at an immaculate 5000mile ZX9R that's clean, fast and capable, and I don't see where the real big progress or leap in performance and handling is with your £15-16k R1's and BMW's of today? |
You might think that. Which have you owned to inform that conclusion?
I've covered many thousands of miles on 90s Fireblades, and more recently on the 15/16 R1. I've also owned and ridden a variety of machinery inbetween. Every bike has it's own character, and the old bikes are still highly capable. But the latest generation of superbikes (particularly the S1000RR, R1, 1299, RSV4) are many times more capable still, and offer a completely different experience (road or track). Whether that difference is for better or worse is a subjective matter. But whatever your view, there have been very significant generational advances, and it really isn't the same thing. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 189 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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