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bigdom86
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: inner gloves or new gloves Reply with quote

hi all

everything else seems to stay just about OK riding in the freezing weather except hands. currently using alpinestars windstopper gloves which I like as they are lightweight and allows me to feel the clutch and brake. i did try some winter gloves but they are so thick i didnt like the control on them, i ride in central london so alot of filtering and riding the clutch so this is important.

what inner gloves do you recommend like those silk ones?

or some new gloves i can use for winter but must have a thin palm area so get a good feel of the clutch and brake, i was thinking the alpinestars track ones may do the job but may even be worse than the wind stoppers
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered muffs, or heated grips, or both?
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

get wrist deep in some furry muffs.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: re Reply with quote

i ride in central london so it doesnt get too cold to need muffs or heated grips, last winter i just beared with it and wore my normal gloves but seems a bit more chilly this year, i was perhaps thinking of these for inners:

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/101854

but maybe i am better off getting a new glove.

plus i am doing DAS next month and will be getting a cbr600 or r6 (prefer sports bikes) so muffs would look a little weird, and the inside of my palm is fine its just the outisde which gets cold so heated grips wouldnt solve this i guess
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.rst-moto.com/rst-tractech-evo-waterproof-ce-glove.html

I use these for winter, they're not quite thick winter gloves, more like 3-season gloves. I find they're perfect for commuting around London in as they're not so thick you cant feel the controls like your normal winter gloves. Combined with heated grips on longer cross-country trips, hands are always warm & dry.

They're also the only piece of RST "waterproof" kit I've ever owned that actually ARE waterproof! Laughing Every RST "sinaqua - waterproof" jacket/trousers I've owned has leaked like a sieve from day 1.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
will be getting a cbr600 or r6 (prefer sports bikes) so muffs would look a little weird

Fashion victim. Razz

bigdom86 wrote:
and the inside of my palm is fine its just the outisde which gets cold so heated grips wouldnt solve this i guess

Muffs would. Even hand-guards help with that a little.

The problem with liners is that they can fill in the air gap between your hand and the glove and actually increase heat loss. That's been my experience. If you go up a glove size you might be OK, but then you might as well get multi-layer winter gloves anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuff/Options mentioned here ; https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=315671
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried a lot of different inner gloves and ended up going back to a cheap pair from Primark. This winter I'm gonna try lever sleeves, and probably pickup a pair of Spada Enforcers. I don't like big cumbersome gloves either but I like cold hands even less Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got the spada enforcers, as has pigeon. they are nice and toasty, BUT they are cumbersome and thick.

i prefer having warm hands over feel though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds a bit girly, but get you will be pleasantly surprised by silk liners/inners, about a fiver on fleabay.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

groovylee wrote:
ive got the spada enforcers, as has pigeon. they are nice and toasty, BUT they are cumbersome and thick.

i prefer having warm hands over feel though Thumbs Up


Same here. I only find them to be cumbersome for about the first two minutes after putting them on having switched from summer gloves - quickly get used to them.
I've also used Windstoppers inside them, and they did make a difference, even though at first they felt a bit tight under the gloves. Silk inners is probably a good one to try, as they'll be a bit thinner.

Think I'm now back to the problem of keeping feet warm though Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some richa gloves that are not too cumboersome. Most flexible cat2 gloves I have found. I had some BKS ones that were impossibly thick and used for about 100 miles before being ebayed.

That said I'm using heated grips and muffs will be on the bike soon.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 13 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Bought some Halvarssons Beast gloves from SMC which have the outlast technology in them as well as their dryway plus liner. Highly recommend these. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 13 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hands and thighs would literally crack open and bleed from the cold.

Inner gloves do not work for me. Muffs would, but they are ugly, some are easy to steal (it depends on how they are fit), and you have to make sure they are truly waterproof or you end up with heavy soaked sponges over your hands. Also, some people reported that, at high speeds, certain types of muffs end up applying pressure onto the levers!

The only thing that works for me are heated gloves. Not super cheap, but the only alternative for me is not to ride during the winter.

I had a pair of Gerbing which were fine. What sucked was that the low setting was often too hot for city riding, and changing temperature was a pain: I had to press a button on the battery, but the battery would often move around the pouch on the glove, making it hard to find the button and to do this when stopped at traffic lights.

I tried the Tucano urbano heated gloves in a store but the fit was very poor.

In the end I ordered a pair of racing heated gloves from the Italian www.klansrl.com, which actually makes the heated gloves for Tucano. The fit was much better, good protection, and, compared to the Gerbing, there is a lower heat setting, plus the button is visible on the glove, not in a pouch, so much easier to operate even at traffic lights.

Both the Gerbing and the Klan can be attached to the bike's battery or the power socket. If you do this, I think the Gerbing has some kind of remote control which you can put on the handlebars, and which also allows intermittent heating. I never looked into it because I don't do the kind of long distance riding in which this would be useful.

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PostPosted: 10:11 - 13 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS I have heated grips. I find they are almost useless in winter, when you tend to wear thicker gloves anyway. I find they are most useful in spring/autumn, ie when you are wearing lighter gloves (that transmit the heat of the grips better) and the temperature changes immediately. Not perfect, because you risk ending up with cold fingers and burning palms, but better than nothing.

I also tried handle guards in the hope they'd limit the wind, but they made no difference at all to me.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 13 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Londoner2015 wrote:
PS I have heated grips. I find they are almost useless in winter, when you tend to wear thicker gloves anyway. I find they are most useful in spring/autumn, ie when you are wearing lighter gloves (that transmit the heat of the grips better) and the temperature changes immediately. Not perfect, because you risk ending up with cold fingers and burning palms, but better than nothing.

I also tried handle guards in the hope they'd limit the wind, but they made no difference at all to me.

I think a lot of the cold's transmitted through the levers (and probably to a lesser extent the bars). For me it's even an issue when cycling (but not as bad), where the wind chill's lower and you're using the levers less.

Storing your bike outside's also a factor. Even getting the bike out I need gloves on, once you're cold it's difficult to warm up again.
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