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PostPosted: 19:16 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Surrogacy tell me about it. Reply with quote

Because I'm not particularly rounded as a person, particularly sane AND I have serious trust issues serious relationships are a no no for me.

Recently my house building process a 3 year long palaver involved in putting it together and other headaches I've suffered to get to where I am now... it seems a shame to have this all taken by the government when I die.

So tell me about surrogacy.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wank in a pot, give it some bird who either gargles it or shoves it up her doodah at the right time of the month, 9 months later a money sponge comes out. You need to have loads of paperwork done first though and stump cash up front for said bird's expenses. She can back out and keep the poop maker if she wants at any time.

Written in a misogynistic way as I think just renting a womb is out of order just because you can. If it is to bring a child to a couple who struggle to have their own then that is a totally different conversation.

Get yourself a nice girl, put a bit of effort in and perhaps you might end up with the patter of tiny feet.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: Surrogacy tell me about it. Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
So tell me about surrogacy.

I respect your right to be able to do it.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: Surrogacy tell me about it. Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
to get to where I am now... it seems a shame to have this all taken by the government when I die.



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PostPosted: 19:58 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a serious response:

If you really don't want a kid or any of that...

Become one of those secret millionaire types. Hunt down the best heir to your empire and bestow it upon them at some pivotal moment in their life.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: Surrogacy tell me about it. Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
it seems a shame to have this all taken by the government when I die.

So leave it to a charity, if you can find an actual charity that's. If you want an heir to your fortune (how rich are you? Thinking) find any woman rapidly approaching 40 who's desperate for a child. She'll sleep with you once and never talk to you again, even if you live together Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:37 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your desire is to deny the government your fortune, just beqeath it to some random child, it's not like you're going to care when your dead anyway!
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Wank in a pot, give it some bird who either gargles it.




Now I'm not an expert but I'm sure you can't get her up te duff this way
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
Skudd wrote:
Wank in a pot, give it some bird who either gargles it.




Now I'm not an expert but I'm sure you can't get her up te duff this way


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PostPosted: 21:57 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're joking right Itchy?

You can't buy an heir. Even if you were to engage a surrogate it's going to involve a long term relationship of some sort. You'll be connected to the mother forever as well as the child and how can you be sure you'll bond with the child? Some kids are 'orrible!

Here's my suggestion. Become a sperm donor through a sperm bank.

In the UK you can father up to 10 kids who have right to find out your identity at some point.

Leave all your assets in trust for "any child(ren) who makes themselves known as having been conceived using an Itchy donation"

Bish, bosh.......... The mothers pay all the expenses of raising the child(ren) and you get paid £35 a shot.

Win win I'd say Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to imagine Itchy with a kid. It isn't pretty.

"Daddy, I want this for my next birthday."

"Don't worry dear, the world is going to end before your next birthday."
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 15 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Providing you don't want sex, you can leave me all your money.

It's going to be perfect. You'll never have to see me. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 05:05 - 16 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for leave it to charity.

Don Bosco are a particularly nice one actually, I was really impressed with how they work.

I won't lie, pretty much any charity coming out of the West seems wonky. However, there are plenty of really nice ones, not to mention individuals doing amazing things.

I know a great woman in India for instance who runs a home for young girls (minors) who became pregnant through sexual abuse, and often were abandoned by their family afterwards.
She still runs that home, as well as a child advocacy centre to help children and parents cope with the discovery of sexual abuse, and to provide an intermediary with the police. I still try to fundraise for her and direct funds to her when I get the chance.

There is no good deed in bringing a child in to the world purely to spite the government.

There are, however, plenty of children in this world already who would have their quality of life, and future, greatly improved by your contribution.

And even staying closer to home, as said, secret millionaire... Do you know about good single mums who are good candidates for your patronage? Especially those widowed and estranged from family.

I know one lady, a really nice English woman, who is a single mother following the death of her husband, and has no family whatsoever. Her child is awesome, and the centre of her life, but you can see she is struggling to keep it all together with work, home and education etc. 捉襟见肘...

I'm sure in Hong Kong you can also find some really worthy examples without looking too hard.

Maybe take it as your next hobby/project, finding a worthy successor. Laughing

It's a nice position to be in, and I envy you Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 16 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand how anyone would have anything left after drink, drugs and prostitutes?
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 16 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:
Another vote for leave it to charity...


I'm a charity case, a poor foreigner from a developing country, unemployed at the moment, driving a 21 years old car, using a 9 years old computer, living with my parents. Crying or Very sad Razz
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 16 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry are you male or female?
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groove wrote:
I don't understand how anyone would have anything left after drink, drugs and prostitutes?


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PostPosted: 06:21 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
Groove wrote:
I don't understand how anyone would have anything left after drink, drugs and prostitutes?


/thread.


I had a rather tongue in cheek response to a friend of mine wanting to top herself, of "It's a waste without a few maxed out credit cards", and it got me thinking about the actual logistics of doing that.

Either you decide you want to die, and then start running up massive bills knowing you will have to kill yourself at the end.

OR

You run up the bills having fun, still find life shit and want to top yourself... but then it feels like you gave up under the weight of the debts. If the UK starts aggressively calling in student loans I'd expect the number of suicides to go up exponentially for that reason.

It's lose lose whatever though. Suicide/death with money in the bank is a waste, wasting all your money cheers you up short term but probably ensures your death even better.

Ergo...

Probably not a bad idea to maintain a sensible style of life and have someone you can bestow your money on ultimately. One day, we are all destined to slip in the bathroom and crack our head on the porcelain of bad luck...

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PostPosted: 07:20 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:
Another vote for leave it to charity.

Don Bosco are a particularly nice one actually, I was really impressed with how they work.

I won't lie, pretty much any charity coming out of the West seems wonky. However, there are plenty of really nice ones, not to mention individuals doing amazing things.

I know a great woman in India for instance who runs a home for young girls (minors) who became pregnant through sexual abuse, and often were abandoned by their family afterwards.
She still runs that home, as well as a child advocacy centre to help children and parents cope with the discovery of sexual abuse, and to provide an intermediary with the police. I still try to fundraise for her and direct funds to her when I get the chance.

There is no good deed in bringing a child in to the world purely to spite the government.

There are, however, plenty of children in this world already who would have their quality of life, and future, greatly improved by your contribution.


And even staying closer to home, as said, secret millionaire... Do you know about good single mums who are good candidates for your patronage? Especially those widowed and estranged from family.

I know one lady, a really nice English woman, who is a single mother following the death of her husband, and has no family whatsoever. Her child is awesome, and the centre of her life, but you can see she is struggling to keep it all together with work, home and education etc. 捉襟见肘...

I'm sure in Hong Kong you can also find some really worthy examples without looking too hard.

Maybe take it as your next hobby/project, finding a worthy successor. Laughing

It's a nice position to be in, and I envy you Thumbs Up




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PostPosted: 11:08 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:


...Probably not a bad idea to maintain a sensible style of life and have someone you can bestow your money on ultimately.


Oh, how silly of me, l forget that we are supposed to leave the fruits of our labour to the 'entitlement' generation, so that they can blow it all without consequence.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:


Oh, how silly of me, l forget that we are supposed to leave the fruits of our labour to the 'entitlement' generation, so that they can blow it all without consequence.


Go on as many s.k.i holidays as you fancy chap, point I was making is it is hard not to leave something behind, or risk going bust trying to use it all.

Just look at all the 2nd mortgage crinklies who frittered it away and kept going on to cat food and care homes.

Annoyingly difficult to plan when you will snuff it.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a sink estate, and set up a Thunderdome stylee entertainment show. 2 chavs in, 1 chav out. Last man standing becomes your heir, until you move on to the next sink estate.

It's win/win.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you serious? A) the kid in question would end up as the social equivalent of a radioactive train wreck if brought up under a mindset like the one you tend to exhibit online, and B) children require significantly more input than adults do - if you can't cope with an adult in close confines, all I see in that child's future is a burlap sack with a couple of bricks in it.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
if you can't cope with an adult in close confines


Here's the thing. All I ever meet are gold diggers. This jades me considerably. Last week on a first date in Leeds I went for lunch and was asked pretty bluntly how much money I made. This put me off pretty much instantly. The bill came to about 500 quid for lunch.

Why would I want to be with somebody like that? Somebody who only wants money, isn't this just dating a prostitute why would you do something so silly? It gets worse when women 10 years ago wouldn't look at you suddenly message you and are interested for some unfathomable reason. You may also think this is an Asian thing. It's not as I get this home and away.

The UK dating market? This isn't exactly roses either, we've been dehumanised and emasculated for 250+ years just look at how badly people reacted when Lorde revealed her Chinese boyfriend. Look at the casualised racism expressed on here.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 17 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Last week on a first date in Leeds I went for lunch and was asked pretty bluntly how much money I made. This put me off pretty much instantly.


What did you expect? They're clearly not after your bubbly personality.
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