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Kai.Wilson
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Legal night working hours Reply with quote
Long story short just left my old job and found out the entire time I was working illegal hours

I was working 7pm til 6am so 11 hours a night

The law states I should only have been working 7 hours in a 24 hour period

Where do I stand with this?

Avenues to pursue?

My reason for leave was the place was getting me down
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andyscooter
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
11 hours how many nights a week

Did you sign an agreement saying you were willing to work more then 48 hours a week

Also it's got to be twelve hours between shifts
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Legal night working hours Reply with quote
Kai.Wilson wrote:




The law states I should only have been working 7 hours in a 24 hour period.



Really? I think most jobs would disagree with that. Even on nights.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
7 hours? The working time directive says 42 hours per week and you can opt out if you wish.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sounds like bullshit. I used to work 8-7...
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Kai.Wilson
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can't opt out of night worker legal hours

https://www.gov.uk/night-working-hours/hours-and-limits
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kai.Wilson wrote:
You can't opt out of night worker legal hours

https://www.gov.uk/night-working-hours/hours-and-limits


That link says an average of 8 hours a night, not 7, and you could work, for example, 10 hours a night provided that you took two days off in the middle.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kai.Wilson wrote:
You can't opt out of night worker legal hours

https://www.gov.uk/night-working-hours/hours-and-limits


Night workers must not work more than an average of 8 hours in a 24-hour period.

The average is usually calculated over 17 weeks, but it can be over a longer period of up to 52 weeks if the workers and the employer agree, eg by collective agreement.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
4 on 4 off?
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Most of my shifts are 12-14 hours days and nights, I can work 6-9 shifts on the row. Some times you have to work for your money.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I worked 86.5 hours week before last. Nights.


There aren't 86.5 'night' hours in a week.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
BikeDoctor wrote:
I worked 86.5 hours week before last. Nights.


There aren't 86.5 'night' hours in a week.


There can be, nights can start from 17:00hr and end 08:00hr or even later.
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Kai.Wilson
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Kai.Wilson wrote:
You can't opt out of night worker legal hours

https://www.gov.uk/night-working-hours/hours-and-limits


That link says an average of 8 hours a night, not 7, and you could work, for example, 10 hours a night provided that you took two days off in the middle.


It was 3 days on 4 off 11 hours so the average on worked days would always be 11
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kai.Wilson wrote:
It was 3 days on 4 off 11 hours so the average on worked days would always be 11


The law isn't based on average on worked days. It's usually calculated over 17 weeks as per the link you posted. If you consistently work the same 3 on 4 off 11 hours pattern then you can just use one week to work out your average.

In a 7 day rotation you work 33 hours. 33 hours divided by 7 days gives you 4.71 hours. Well below what you're wrongly quoting as a maximum.


(EDIT:- Removed bit asking why you're complaining when you're on cushy hours. I missed the bit about it being a previous job.)

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PostPosted: 19:57 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kai.Wilson wrote:


It was 3 days on 4 off 11 hours so the average on worked days would always be 11


I make that an average of 4.7 over the course of a week.

EDIT: Too Slow ^^
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep, you are working it out wrong.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
You've read the 7hrs bit wrong. It's not saying the shift must be 7 hrs long - it's saying that the period you agree to call 'night' must be 7 hrs long and has to include the hrs of midnight-5am in it somewhere. So basically you and your employer can agree, in writing, to shift the period you call 'night' back one hour or forward one hour from the standard 11pm-6am.

Nothing to do with what length hours you work.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikeDoctor wrote:
Paddy. wrote:
4 on 4 off?
No Im always on the job or involved somehow when my men are in the field on OPS.


So that's booked time, not hours worked. I get a lot of booked time that I am not at or anywhere near work.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 07 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pete. wrote:

So that's booked time, not hours worked. I get a lot of booked time that I am not at or anywhere near work.


He also wants people to enjoy his 2nd hand smoke, so I'm guessing he didn't waltz out of Oxbridge.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 08 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikeDoctor wrote:
Paddy. wrote:
4 on 4 off?
No Im always giving blow jobs or involved somehow when my men are cruising in the local playing field on Grindr.

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