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Brolly Dolly



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PostPosted: 17:11 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Acceptable electrical connection to boiler? Reply with quote

Acceptable or not?
https://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo91/johnfitskitchens/20161224_181221_zpsgybj2ap9.jpg
I already know what I think, just want to know others opinions before I get onto the nic eic.
Cheers all and happy new year!
Should have said, it's in a kitchen
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen many worse electrical connections.

It's in a BS60670 approved junction box.

If it was me, I'd have it screwed down to the wall.

What would you have done instead?
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bugeye_bob
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I have seen many worse electrical connections.

It's in a BS60670 approved junction box.

If it was me, I'd have it screwed down to the wall.

What would you have done instead?

Wired feed directly into boiler, this has been posted before.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor but mainly on the technical aspect of it not being fixed and the cables not being supported going into it (leading to strain on the terminated conductors).

What exactly do you want the end game to be here? Have you spoken to the housing authority clerk of works and voiced your concerns/spelt out what you want?
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bugeye_bob
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

has it taken them from May to fit a JB ?

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4293249&highlight=#4293249
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Brolly Dolly



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PostPosted: 18:23 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problems as I see it are, no strain reliif on the cable, so potental for wire to be pulled out and exposed live, and possibility of water ingress again giving potental for electric shock.
As Bob said, wire direct to boiler would have been the best soulution, however, the cable was not long enough, so at the very least a waterproof connector with strain releif on the cable such as
https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Electrical/d190/Exterior+Wiring+Accessories/sd2659/IP68+Inline+3+Pole+Connector/p27346
The reason for the ask is that in 2004, with the then upcoming part P and being a kitchen fitter who was doing electrics as well, I did a one week wonder course so I could self cert. It was at that point that I had the dreadfull realization of how much I did not know. I have not done electrical work as part of my kitchen fitting since. I have however assisted the qualified sparks and have learned a bit since then. I've not been a kitchen fitter or assisted with sparks work for a couple of years now, and as the 17th edition has happened, and maybe been revised, I am probably well out of date. Hence the ask
The pictured jb was an upgrade on the previous tape wrapped choc blok which where both fitted by a council approved contractor in a council oap bungalow
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Brolly Dolly



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PostPosted: 18:29 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Bob, the work was done quickly but this was my first look. Lee, the endgame here is getting a proper, to regulation connection. The chap that fitted the jb said he could not see a problem with the choc bloc and tape. However I am asking as I don't know if i'm overreacting to something that may be acceptable and to regulation.
But I don't think it is
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was right it isnt "dangerous", take a picture of where the flex goes, as I suspect its just the feed for the boiler, so goes to a switched fused spur, if so its a 5 mins job to swap the flex for a longer piece that will reach the boiler with no joint required, Dangerous and poor are two different things, a live conductor on show is Dangerous.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The irony is, if he'd shoved it up inside the boiler casing, nobody would have noticed.

making it waterproof is a bit of a waste of time, none of the mains electricals inside the boiler itself are waterproof.

There will be a basic screw in terminal block inside the boiler.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
The irony is, if he'd shoved it up inside the boiler casing, nobody would have noticed.

making it waterproof is a bit of a waste of time, none of the mains electricals inside the boiler itself are waterproof.

There will be a basic screw in terminal block inside the boiler.


Agreed.

To be honest, if you have water running over that connection, electricity is the least of your problems.
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