Fat Burners, anyone used them? Recommendations?

[grant965]

Hello,
I've spent too long aiming to build muscle that I'm now carrying too much fat and I'm basically a fat blob.
I've started changing my diet and workouts to pretty much all cardio, so I'm looking at what else I can do to squeeze a little extra for my efforts and to speed up the process.
I've read mixed reviews about fat burners, some which say the caffeinated ones work well whilst others say they can be very dangerous and are to be avoided.
Considering I drink a lot of tea during the day I'm wary about the extra caffeine.

Look for any help or pointers, information, recommendations, experiences etc.

Thanks,
Grant
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[MarJay]

I don't think they work. I tried Raspberry ketones for a while and they *might* have done something, but the difference was negligible.
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[dodsi]

I dont think you want the actual answer to this question.

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[grr666]

Six packs are created in the kitchen mate, not the gym.

Salad salad salald you dirty bulker you...
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[Robby]

My wife got rid of fat by doing a low carb diet. Takes a few weeks to start working properly, but was very effective. It involves eating a lot of meat and fat.

[G]

CICO - Calories in, Calories out; of course.

Take plenty of caffeine and you will actually burn a bit more from NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis - basically fidgeting). Possible it will just 'burn' a few more, keeping you slightly warmer in a few situations.

Apart from that, the energy has to go somewhere.

Another benefit is that many stimulants reduce appetite, to make it easier to stick to a calorie deficit.
If you're not struggling sticking to an appropriate calorie deficit, they're not going to do much.

Remember that when losing weight your body will often turn to muscle rather than fat, especially if you're going for a fairly high calorie deficit.
Making sure you have plenty of protein (typically more than when bulking) and keep doing resistance exercises to remind your body it still needs that muscle.

With various less-legal products there may be more options as far as keeping muscle and losing fat goes, but I haven't researched them and would expect they come with added dangers.

What's your daily calorie deficit? Is the same everyday? Do you have trouble sticking to that? How do you monitor your weight? How do you monitor your calories in/out?

[GhostRider]

Short answer: probably not, and even ones that do, the overall effect is very small percentages, the likes of which only pro-bodybuilders will be concerned with, and they're juicing up on all sorts of stegs in addition to any fat burners.

From my many years in the ghetto, I can say hand on heart that the "Crack Diet" works wonders as well.

GhostRider
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[bugeye_bob]

aarron lambo fat burners.
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[_Will_]

Clenbuterol, Albuterol, Trebolone.

Legal? No, there are no legal fat burners that work.

Also no, I would not condone using those substances to lose fat any more than I would recommend Ghosties Crack diet

Lift weights, everyday - high frequency and do low pace cardio, about 30 mins every day with heart rate around 130-140bpm and follow through for as long as it takes, keeping calories at maintenance (the cardio will keep you in deficit) - use my fitness pal to track everything (right down to the condiments) this is as practically as accurate as you will get without resorting to lab testing your meals. The longer you do this the slower it will happen, such is life things get harder, the main thing is consistency.

If you will use caffeine get it in tablet form and bulk at least you know thats all thats in there and no sugar (caffeine does have a minimal effect on long term fat loss). Or you can use coffee, green tea, guarana etc etc
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[J4mes]

I used a product called Diamond Labs ECA Stack about 5 years ago. It worked, in combination with reasonable diet and exercise I lost about two stone in two months.

But it soon slowed up, and the product got banned anyway.

I've now reverted to myfitnesspal and running, which is sustainable and while it takes much longer (3 stone in two years) the weight is staying off.

Calories in, calories out. If you're gaining fat, you're either eating too much or not moving enough.

Or it's your thyroid

Edit: they made me sweat like fuck and I was constantly parched. Mouth like a fucking desert, no matter how much I drank. Wasn't nice.

[nowhere.elysium]

Short of surgical intervention (or a chronic coke habit), there are no short cuts.

Eat less, be more selective with your food, and keep up with the exercise. Even with the remarkably shit year I've had with regards to exercise, I've still lost some weight by modifying my diet a bit. If I go full puritan on my eating, I'll probably drop a ton of weight by this time next year.
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I should note that I've been losing a bit of weight just fine and now stopped doing any exercise.

I prefer to exercise - eat more, get fitter, but unfortunately dodgy shoulders that have been an issue for getting on for three years in one way or another keep getting iritated even by pretty basic stuff like sleeping, running and cycling I think. (Typically the pain comes in a couple of days later so it's quite hard to diagnose.)

[_Will_]

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I've decided to shift a bit this year, so bought one of the many "unwanted gift" Garmin Viviactive HR smart watches on Ebay.

I eat pretty sensibly, but drink too much. What I hadn't realised is just how little activity I did with a sit down job. My heart rate even walking briskly up hill can hit 140bpm and upwards too, which isn't good. But I am currently shifting 18.5 stone clothed.

I've given it a target of 0.5KG a week. I have a calorie starting target of around 2000 a day, plus whatever I burn, then take off calories consumed. I need to burn around 500 a day more than I consume. It started me off fairly easy with only 5000 or so steps a day. 3 weeks on I'm up to well over 9,000 a day now and almost 4,000 calories burnt, with less than 3500 including wine consumed. This is mainly due to walking very quickly and not sitting still for too long. More than an hour or so and it detects your heart rate slowing and nags you to move for a few minutes. Just done it now, so will pop out to the garden and walk about for a bit until the move bar clears. (Working from home today).

No matter how much I try to walk more though, on work days I'm not hitting 9,000 a day without walking around in circles in front of the TV for an hour or so a night. I've hit the target every day though. 10,000 steps for me is around 5 miles.

It is actually working for me. I've lost 3 pounds so far.
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Eat less move more.
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