YBR 125 gear issue: stuck in high gear?

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

Hi there

I hope you can help as I have just purchased my first bike.

here are the symptoms.

Clutch does not seem to go out far enough. If I unhook the cable from its retainer on the engine case, and roll along whilst hitting the start switch, it will run a if it is in gear. I cant crash into any other gears.

when the cable is where it should be, I can move the shifter in the downwards direction into a gear but it does not return to the middle position. it stays depressed.

The chain tension is v slack for some reason, the previous owner said he liked loose chain? :\

other than that, it starts and runs lovely! really lovely.

I was thinking, could it be the jobby on the other end of the shift levers shaft has broken so its not moving the selectors? or is it more than likely the clutch is buggered/ gear box is a brick?



Please help.

Dan

[stinkwheel]

I'd be having a look at the front sprocket first. See what's going on under there. Nobody "likes a loose chain".

Having a look at the clutch and clutch mechanism isn't a huge job and would be my next step. You either need to lean the bike way over to the left or drain the oil and remove the RHS engine cover. You will need a new gasket for it.

Probably best to change the oil once you've found the problem anyway given the apparent attitude to routine maintainance.

Your symptoms could fit with a few things from something very simple to somethign catastrophic. My guess (it's a total guess) is that the clutch basket retaining nut has come loose and the clutch is flapping about.

In B4 welded on front sprocket...
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[jaffa90]

It could be the gear lever return spring but i suspect it has the wrong oil or too much oil in it for the clutch not to release.

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[Fizzoid]

[jaffa90]

""""""""""Also thank you for the tip about too much oil, I checked that last night. on the side stand, its spot on. When its stood upright, its too much... new to bikes."""""""""""
The bike should be upright and on level ground to check the oil level.

[stinkwheel]

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

Erm, just one more thing *in Colombo voice*

It says in the service manual
"Ensure bike is on a level surface, place on a suiltable stand and make sure that the vehicle is upright."

Does that mean on the side stand or on the centre stand? im confused.

If its on the side stand, the oil level is perfect. if it means the centre stand, the reading says that the engine is swimming in oil.

Bloody hell, welcome to motorcycles

[Polarbear]

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[ThatDippyTwat]

Too much oil will do this on a YBR. Mine came with a "sticky shift" in the same manner. changed the oil as a matter of course on a bike I don't know, and shift is not an issue. It may not be your only problem, but it'll only cost you 1L of oil to find out, before you start opening cases etc.
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[stinkwheel]

[ThatDippyTwat]

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

Thank you for your help.

Turns out that the star shaped selector thing was loose and the selector rod (for some undiagnosed and still and a problem reason) pushes through slightly so that it doesn't touch the selector star jobbby :/

It was also full of the most grungy oil with the contents of the bottom of a. Pond at the. Bottom of it.

Strangely tho, one of the clutch plates was completely worn but the. Rest were not. Replaced that too.

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[stinkwheel]

The grunge in the oil was probably the remains of the clutch plate.

Make sure you clean the oil strainer.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

Well, its happened again. should I drop some locktite into the hole before I tighten up the alen bolt? ffs I was just getting into riding it to and from work :\

[chris-red]

You mean the splined selector shaft? It won't hurt putting locktite on the bolt round the clamp. However It shouldn't have come loose if you did it up tight. It will be worth checking it for wear.
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[Ayup_Mi-Duck]

[chris-red]

Not seen anything like that before, I can't help.
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Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.

[chris-red]

https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5452211/ybr125ed-2012-51d2-europe-black-metallic-x/shift-cam-fork


Looking at the diagram it has a dowel to keep the Star thing from spinning does yours have it?
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Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.