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olliec769
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Can any one help me with wheeling a 50cc Reply with quote

Can any one please help me out here, i want to learn how to wheelie my standard NRG 50cc.

Any help will be much appreciated.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheelying a moped? Confused It's not going to have the power, and there's no clutch either. I suppose it might be possible, but I'll be damned if I know how.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is possible. Done it once on moped.

Sit right at the back of the bike and basically pull as hard as you can to get it up.

You might want a full fuel tank to let the fuel add extra weight to end of moped. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could do it on a Piaggio Typhoon very easily. It is quite similar to the NRG. Just pull the bars hard as you accelerate from a slow speed to get it up. Thats about it really. I could twist the handle bars in the air whilst i was doing it. Also it helps balance when you stick your left leg out abit. I don't know why it just does Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's how i would do it but not sure without a clutch

-start rolling at about 10-20mph

- throttle on as if you are excellerating hard and similtaniously flick the clutch in and out and tug on the bars

-when the bike starts to climb roll the throttle to keep at the right height

-Height is controlled by gentle dabs on the rear brake

- Land with front wheel straight otherwise a tank slapper will occur

and thats it Easy :up:
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it in a busy area!

Yesterday a mate of mine on a speedfight 50 was messing around wheeling up and down a strech of road. He lost control by leaning too far back, and ended up ghostying the bike down the road.

The damage to the bike was the least of his worries. As the bike went down the road at speed, it hit and jumped up a cerb, hitting two elderly people. He has only been riding 2 weeks and is likely to be banned as he left the scene, and rode off.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill help! You lean back, i will pick up the front wheel for you. Wink

my mate had a malaguti crosser that would wheelie. funny little scooter that was. he used to lean it right over until the centre sctand was scraping too.

Id say sit as far back as possible with the bike stopped. then simultaneously yank back the bars and open the throttle full whack! Cool

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PostPosted: 18:29 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't do it in a busy area!

Yesterday a mate of mine on a speedfight 50 was messing around wheeling up and down a strech of road. He lost control by leaning too far back, and ended up ghostying the bike down the road.

The damage to the bike was the least of his worries. As the bike went down the road at speed, it hit and jumped up a cerb, hitting two elderly people. He has only been riding 2 weeks and is likely to be banned as he left the scene, and rode off.


Ok. Cheers for the advice Exclamation

Was the old people ok Question Question
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The major part of a scooter wheelie is balancing the weight I believe. A lot of people start out with their legs hanging off the back, sitting right on the back of the seat.
After that, it's going to be a case of getting the power to come on as you pull on the bars.

rieju.rs1.evolution wrote:

The damage to the bike was the least of his worries. As the bike went down the road at speed, it hit and jumped up a cerb, hitting two elderly people. He has only been riding 2 weeks and is likely to be banned as he left the scene, and rode off.


He also deserves a good kicking for being a twat, imo.

Walk before you can run. And definitely don't practice wheelies in areas with other vehicles, nevermind people, until you can do them competently.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
The major part of a scooter wheelie is balancing the weight I believe. A lot of people start out with their legs hanging off the back, sitting right on the back of the seat.
After that, it's going to be a case of getting the power to come on as you pull on the bars


People don't have look stupid doing that, takes no skill and doesn't teach anything either.. IMO.

Ollie, If you're gonna learn to wheely.. do it properly..
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yams wrote:

People don't have look stupid doing that, takes no skill and doesn't teach anything either.. IMO.


Podge started doing that and moved onto foot-up ones, which would suggest it does teach you something Smile.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Podge started doing that and moved onto foot-up ones, which would suggest it does teach you something Smile.


Not neccessarily Razz

Still looks gay.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yams wrote:

Still looks gay.


It looks like you have a gay packpack on in your avatar wheely picture, we haven't criticised.

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PostPosted: 19:23 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done it before on my senda, by mistake i might add. Too much revs and let clutch out too quick.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Yams wrote:

Still looks gay.


It looks like you have a gay packpack on in your avatar wheely picture, we haven't criticised.

Razz


Least I don't need to drag my feet on the floor when wheelying hehe
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:31 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Practical applications?


Are there any, its fun.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vespa wrote:
Why the need to know how to do one? Practical applications?


Other than just general stunt riding, motocross and trials riding I should think are the only applications of wheelies.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vespa wrote:
Could somebody please just explain to a novice of 20 years' experience what's the point of a wheelie? Why the need to know how to do one? Practical applications?


What's the point in going for a sunday rideout?

It's fun..
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vespa wrote:
Could somebody please just explain to a novice of 20 years' experience what's the point of a wheelie? Why the need to know how to do one? Practical applications?


You can ask the same question about whats the point in a bike doing more then 70mph if that is the max you are allowed to go.

Pointless................No
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

olliec769 wrote:

You can ask the same question about whats the point in a bike doing more then 70mph if that is the max you are allowed to go.


Well...

Having a vehicle which can do 100+ means it won't take forever and a day to get to 70mph. Top speed isn't really terribly important unless it's terribly low (eg 4t 125, mopeds). What counts is the acceleration, this is the main constituent of driveability (how good a vehicle is to drive if you will).
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:12 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vespa wrote:
Pity so far every one of them has worn a helmet...


If you are implying that if they came of without a helmet you are sick and need your head examining.

how anybody can wish pain like that on somebody else disgusts me it really does.

And as for wheelies why not why do people ride scooters when they have the capacity to ride a sports bike, or why do some people chose to ride a cruiser etc. Personal preference.

For myself I enjoyed trying to do wheelies as I enjoyed it always did it in very quiet area on quiet days well away from pedestrians and traffic.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok ill tell you, legs off back DOES teach you at the start, i learnt by dangling legs off, now i can wheelie with feet over bars, sitting as far forward as possible and standing on seat.

And yes that is on a 50..........a zip to be more precise.

Just sit back twist and when you feel the thrust pull back, remember finger over rear brake, but dont slam the brake otherwise you will do serious damage to ped.

Remember practice makes perfect, dont get the hump if after an hour you cant do it, 10months later you will be as at home on 1 wheel as you are on 2, well took me 10months anyway.............

Now i have to learn stoppies, any advice?

That wheelie pic up top looks like you are going round a bend on the rear wheel or about to lose it.................
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 01 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont do what i did on the NRG and sit on the rear spoiler- spat me right off the bike as i felt the bike rise to past the 11 o clock position.

Feet on pillon pegs or dangling off ensures you get the balance right. Cover the rear brake just in case you need to shave off some speed and to get your front wheel on terra firma.

Ensure that your rear tyres are at correct pressure - did a wheelie when there was a stone wedged in my rear and i cant say that i was the sensible one doing it up a hill coming home from college (private road but that doesn't make it any more appropriate for a wheelie)

Best to tug on the bars as you throttle on - about 6000-7000 rpm when the auto clutch kicks in, about 10-15mph. Get it right and depending on your balance and determination, you can get about 50 feet. A "pop" can see you do about 10 feet if your balance is a bit off, but is still considered a wheelie. NRG's are fun tools to do them with, but i cant say that they were as fun as doing clutch wheelies.
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