Motovlogger nearly at 1000 subs! Will answer any questions!

derillius24 · Trackday Trickster Joined: 08 Aug 2010 Karma :

T'is a mystery.

Also, if I'm ever in McDonald's and someone starts filming me with a GoPro while commentating on their Big Mac, I will punch them square in the throats.

Fact.
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Bozzy · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 Dec 2015 Karma :

Think the OP flounced a while ago! Rolling Eyes

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definitelyinc... · Trackday Trickster Joined: 09 Nov 2016 Karma :

Talk into a mic all you want mate, do your thing, nothing wrong with it, each to their own. But I have to say this - I hate people who beg for money online and justify it with the fact that they have mounted a camera to their helmet, or have a camera and record their day, just no.

https://www.patreon.com/DUKEBLADE

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derillius24 · Trackday Trickster Joined: 08 Aug 2010 Karma :

He's looking to get 2k per month for going out on a Sunday bimble and speaking shit? Sick

OP, if you're still lurking, that is not an entrepreneurial venture - you're contributing nothing to anyone. It is begging and you are an entitled disgrace.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Azoth · Brolly Dolly Joined: 07 Jul 2016 Karma :

It's just incredible. What happened to self-respect? I'm astonished at all these e-beggars these days expecting a handout from total strangers for absolutely nothing... Shameless! What the hell happened to working, making/fixing things, buying or selling or just being productive? In the old days you had to be a pretty girl and bat your eyelids, or a street person with drink or drug problems to beg for money. Now it seems that everyone feels 'entitled', and nobody has a dad to give them a slap and tell them that begging puts you instantly at the bottom of the human dungheap. It's fine if you need to beg to survive. After all, survival comes first. But for an able-bodied young man to beg, not just for "tventy paey guv'nor" but 2000 POUNDS for an American holiday or a new bike?!! If this is society in Britain today, and this is the calibre of young people now, we are truly F*CKED.
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definitelyinc... · Trackday Trickster Joined: 09 Nov 2016 Karma :

A good few months back a beggar (notice I didn't say homeless, he even had a nice car I think) actually complained on social media because the main guy from X-Factor (forgot his name, his not important to me :/) only gave him £10 or £20.

To further lessen your faith in humanity there was a show on how a woman on benefits was talking about her 'hard life' as she was getting in a (newish) white Audi... so yeaaaaaah Laughing

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owl · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2016 Karma :

I do ponder if someday there will be so many vloggers following and liking each others shite that they actually become self sustainable from each other Sad

it will be a sad day for humanity
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

There is nothing wrong with Patreon as a concept. I support people who make quality content and put effort into what they do. I like the retro gaming channels like Kim Justice and LGR. I give them a couple of bucks a month because I appreciate what they do.

However, part of the reason that I do support them is that Youtube is SO full of dross like this that the diamonds in the oceans and oceans of rat shit need to be recognised.
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Azoth · Brolly Dolly Joined: 07 Jul 2016 Karma :

I accept what you guys are saying. In two cases it's a grey area.

First, where the monies received are as a part of genuine patronage. The legacy of artist patronage, where a wealthy sponsor would provide a stipend to a talented and trained artist, was a major philanthropic object from the time of the Renaissance until well into the 20th century. Culture depended on it, and many of the great civilisational achievements that we regard as 'heritage' today wouldn't exist at all but for it. However, the crucial difference between this and the exploitation in prevalence today with the likes of Patreon is that artist patronage was a matter of full and complete dependence and support from a single sponsor towards a person of special distinction by reason of expert, often expensive, training over many years. That person was then supposed to use their time to produce something.

Second, where the monies received are after the fact of receiving and benefiting from a product or service, and are considered owing to the producer in a sort of trust, should the person benefiting from that product or service decide to keep that product or service. The shareware model. It works well, because you can 'try out' something if you're not sure whether you want to keep it. If you do, then your conscience tells you to pay the consideration.

With both models, traditional artist patronage and shareware, the people involved are special because of some ability, talent or skill that they have. Neither the shareware developer nor the virtuoso are given anything unless they can actually produce something of calculable, tangible value. The philanthropist might be thinking about boosting the value of his estate, or sustaining an artistic tradition, etc. and this is worth £n to him. He isn't giving charity. The end-user installs the shareware and decides to keep it depending on whether he personally gets some benefit from it. Therefore they are both alternative payment models, not charity at all.

All right-thinking people find the abuse of charity disgusting. A few years ago an old woman died destitute because she was harangued by professional charity beggars and, although herself poor, was so moved by the plight of others that she gave away even her own sustenance. In the past there was a major charity in Britain for the benefit of distressed gentlepeople, and that charity targeted people too proud to seek out any sort of help from others, and basically put money in their hands to help them survive. Old working people, and you can still find a few like them, who found themselves fallen upon hard times used to go around to building sites and look for manual labouring work, ignoring all their health problems, etc.

Considering all this, and this average type of guy with no special talent, shouldn't he be encouraged to go to America on his own steam, saving up the money doing a useful job rather than motobegging? Of course it's a worthy goal for any young person to visit America and have a little bit of fun. But there are certain realities about life which the majority population, who aren't Leonardo Da Vinci, need to appreciate. It's just ugly that he describes himself as having a 'big ego' but hasn't the self-respect to do that for himself. There are far more worthy charity recipients in this world.
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Teflon-Mike · tl;dr Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Karma :

Sorry, I must go open the fridge & see if the light's still on....
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Lowsider · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 13 Oct 2014 Karma :

As a newbie here, and to biking in general, I am bracing for the karma rape for this... but I quite enjoy some motovloggers. BvG and 44teeth I watch pretty much every video. I think it started as a 'go on youtube and listen to bikers to learn bikey things' but when I have a spare half hour I will still watch them. I dont tend to watch the american ones, I find them a bit too over edited and ''woo look at ma supahmoto doin wheelies''.
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thx1138 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Karma :

I think that this Aussies channel is awesome, Off Road / Enuro / Cross Training videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJAvmhgP0h1AEKY8vTEJPJg

I don't think it's actually "vlogging" though?

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Mawsley · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Karma :

My Grandad used to watch Top of the Pops and state that people's hair represented the decline of modern society. My Dad sank into a big depression when the gays were given the right to be as miserable as married heterosexual couples. I look at YouTube and wonder what the fuck humanity is playing at.

How do you even define this bloke's contribution? It sure as fuck isn't education or entertainment - unless you spend your life pissing into bottles and being masturbated to sleep by your mother. I guess it could be "Motivational", I was left motivated to make a gun purchase.

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :