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PostPosted: 19:45 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Jis Screwdrivers Reply with quote

Just wondering if anyone on here uses these Jis screwdrivers (Japanese industry standard). They Seem a bit expensive and ive always used a Philips.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. I use one of these:-
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003BGZ9CO

A non-JIS is ok if the screw head is perfect, and it isn't too tight. But I've had a few screws (brake master cylinder, chain guard) where I'd struggled to get them off whilst the proper screwdriver just works.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, though only after mangling screws and buying several different cross-head screwdrivers hoping to do better. I finally read about JIS screwdrivers on BCF. Get. You can also buy JIS bits instead of entire screwdrivers.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be honest i thought it was just crap jap screws why they always cam out.Talking to someone today and he said about the JIS screwdrivers he had. So i thought I'd get some feed back from you guys first.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Re: Jis Screwdrivers Reply with quote

sniff6 wrote:
Just wondering if anyone on here uses these Jis screwdrivers (Japanese industry standard). They Seem a bit expensive and ive always used a Philips.


JIS is an obsolete standard. This means there is really no such
thing as a new JIS screwdriver. However, there is still a good case
for buying a high quality, Japanese made screwdriver.

Interesting article here:
https://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-tools/hozan-jis-screwdrivers-review/
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replace any JIS screws on my reservoirs, as someone who does not own the tool, I despise the screws.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be inclined the replace JIS headed stuff with PH/Allen
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

sniff6 wrote:
I'll be honest i thought it was just crap jap screws why they always cam out.Talking to someone today and he said about the JIS screwdrivers he had. So i thought I'd get some feed back from you guys first.


No, they cam out because you're using a Philips in a JIS screw - not only do Philips drivers have the wrong set of angles and tip profile, they're designed to cam out at a certain torque.

JIS drivers have become easier to find in the last couple of years, I got these......... https://ruggedroads.co.uk/epages/00cbb604-5d1c-407e-8207-580e14387ec5.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/00cbb604-5d1c-407e-8207-580e14387ec5/Products/%2212705/6/8%22

A quick hack can be to grind the point off a Philips (not a Posi Driv) but you can't beat the real thing. I've even used JIS drivers to get out screws that have previously been mangled by using the wrong driver.

While I'm at it, there's a couple of popular misconceptions about JIS screws;

1/ They're only used by Honda - no, I've seen them on bikes from all of the big four.

2/ They have a dot stamped in them as an identifier - no, not always, so don't get caught out.
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My KR1S is riddled with the things, which is why I've just bought the set that Pete linked to.
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

JIS screwdrivers are better than sex. Good luck splitting a carb bank without them.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't spunk my money on one. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
I wouldn't spunk my money on one. Laughing


But you'd buy new slow bikes, np fam, we get you.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:31 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
thepuma wrote:
I wouldn't spunk my money on one. Laughing


But you'd buy new slow bikes, np fam, we get you.


Clearly went over your head that one..lol

But with regard your comment...I agree, I even test rode a Panigale last saturday with view to placing an order. So slow though.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I use them. I have a set of three vessel ones. They are awesome and definately worth the money.

They are better then a phillips screwdriver on phillips screws too.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your input guys it looks like i'll have to get a set of the Vessel drivers
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep meaning to pony up and get a set but Honda-san kindly provided one in the toolkit for the Viff so that sees its fair share of action.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
thepuma wrote:
I wouldn't spunk my money on one. Laughing


But you'd buy new slow bikes, np fam, we get you.


Shhh!
Someone needs to get some shit bikes back on the roads for people like me to buy in 10-15 years time.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well worth the money
Saves buying new brake resivoirs


But I found most jap bikes have one in the tool kit with the bike
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