Wiggle Room and buying from distance.

[Tracer1234]

So, a couple of quick, and probably silly questions. I am about to buy a use bike, and was wondering on how much wiggle room dealers have. How much is it worth trying to negotiate a price to save a little money here and there?

Its probably going to be a 15 or 16 plate Tracer 900, so fairly new etc

Any tips of dealership negotiations that you have offer?

There are a few around, but none locally, so its probably going to be a case of buying and getting it delivered, or a road trip to pick it up. so Unlikely I will be viewing it before I buy, so will be going on the word of the dealer that it is in as new condition like they say it is.

Any advice would be appreciated it
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[chris-red]

The Tracer is really popular at the moment and we are at the height of the 'season'. You are more likely to get a better deal on a new one.
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[mudcow007]

see if anyone from here is local an will have a look for you?

[Wonko The Sane]

only experience of negotiating when buying a car, managed to get £200 off which was the transport from Paisley to Reading
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

I've found you're more likely to get some extra tat thrown in than money off.
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[chickenstrip]

[P.addy]

[Rogerborg]

[M.C]

I always got the impression (main) dealers weren't interested in people with actual money (they want finance). They can afford to sit on bikes so won't drop much, private sellers normally want the vehicle gone. Dealer margins are huge, a mate got £350 for his CBR125 with a blown exhaust, they stuck a new pipe on and sold it for 2k (he paid £1500 for it).

[stevo as b4]

I agree with most of above posts, go to a dealer for a brand new bike instead and ask for extras/kit/good finance, especially if your only wanting to buy a 12-18month old machine that will only be £££'s cheaper than new probably.

Also sod breaking a ball or getting a headache to drop 200quid in messy haggling to buy the bike you want. If I like it that much and want it I'll buy, but that's nearly never at a dealer.

If it's older used bikes then I'd look for private sales every time
unless it's a hard to find bike and you know a dealer has one in stock. I'd only court a dealer and try to negotiate if it was a rare 20-30year old bike they had in great condition and I really wanted it that much I knew I'd be buying it as I wouldn't find another anytime soon.

And if I wanted a rough fixer upper or rebuild project, then I'd look at eBay, free ads and local papers, as you don't want to pay much for anything your going to strip every bit off and recondition/replace.

Also the thing about dealers being very happy to sit on old bikes well that's good business. If you had say a 1987 VFR 750 in your shop, it's only going to go up in value every year. It could earn you money just sitting there.

[Polarbear]

[DJP]

[M.C]

[MattEMulsion]

[ZX-7R]

[M.C]

[stevo as b4]

To be fair £611 is a better we buy anything offer than I'd have expected for an assumed average condition 17yr old sportsbike.

ZX7R's are old, are rare and though great looking a mint one is, it's not yet a huge nostalgia bike or a cult bike or appreciating classic quite yet. In 2008 ZX6R's of the G-A series were fetching £1500-2000 at best.

Unless my out of touch with millennial bike prices, means everything even that old has shot up in value because theres not enough second hand bikes left in the uk, means everything is overpriced or inflated, then I'd expect to pick up a very tidy ZX7R for under £1500, a tatty one for a grand tops.

If your in a mega rush to get shot and don't want time wasters, then a no quibble 611 notes in your hand is worth having to some people, and if you can save more than £7-800 at the other end by not having a p/x your still out on top.

[ZX-7R]

[Rogerborg]

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[stevo as b4]

This is indeed very true, but was being all caring and shit thinking of you lot.