Speed Cameras, Gatsos, Truvelos etc

[Blink]

Hi,

Are bikes 'invisible' to some of these?

I'm guessing the ones that take a frontal picture are useless against bikes?

Anyway, which cameras should i avoid speeding past? And which shall i promptly swear at.

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[jay12329]

A truvelo takes a front pic, as do specs cameras. Most others take rear photos so can see a bikes plate.
But genrally if there is a speed camera someware its there for a reason. I govern my speed by the souroundings, this normally co-insides with 40/30mph limits. Other limits are genrally more flexable for me, but i dont go flat out everyware. I can oftern be seen doing 20mph past schools at 3:15pm, even tho the limit is 30.
HTH
J

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[Blink]

So i should be wary of the cameras that are on the left side of the road facing away from the driver/rider?
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[G]

If you do it reguraly don't be suprised if they go out looking for someone with your bike/leathers.

Or they stop using front facing cameras. Or restart the front plates for bikes argument.

Whatever, personally I think it's best to not take the piss too much... I would rather quietly take advantage of the benifits of bikes, rather than shove illegal behaviour in authority's face.

[Blink]

Very true G.

However it would be nice to know which cameras are shit against bikes just for peace of mind really.

Plus the ones around my area are blantant money making machines and most of the local police are a bunch of bell ends.
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[Kaben]

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Basically, ones facing you, you don't have to shit yourself for 14 days. Ones facing the way you are going you do.

Watch out for all camera vans...some radio ahead to a police car to do you.

[mchaggis]

https://www.ukspeedcameras.co.uk/index1.htm
https://www.ukspeedcameras.co.uk/guide.htm

Like G says, it's probably best not to take the piss too much, as police mobile speed cameras can still catch you out, even if they normally always sit in the same place behind the hedge.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3683441.stm

A guy doing 150 whilst on the phone.

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[jay12329]

Yeah G they have been on the A46 Farndon for a while now. Not realy an area where you should be speeding anyway 40limit in a built up area.
J

[loply]

I dont speed through speed cameras deliberately as I think this is "asking for trouble" however once or twice i have went through them without paying attention and thought "OH SHIT!" then realised im on my bike and laughed about it.

I wouldnt go through sticking up a finger or anything though as I think this can only lead to bad things. Similarly if I spot one and its too late to slow down I wouldnt bother hammering the brakes dangerously.
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[Rift.]

Couldn't you just cover the plate up with tape and razz fast all the time. (obviously not in daytime)

Then never get fine....(in nighttime)
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[Visitor Q]

Out of curiousity, if i camera van is set up as below (apologise for poor symbol diagram) would it do you for the speeding on the other side?

If the Hash is the camera van and the \ displays the LOS of the vans camera, if i was travelling on the other side of the carriageway would it catch me, or is it only for cars travelling towards it? I slow down anyway, but you have so much forewarning i assume they must be for sneaky catching...
Do they change them so sometimes they work away and sometimes towards?

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[Kaben]

not a point of it being tacked on and looking stupid, its a problem of aerodynamics. Not all machines have space on them to paint a number plate, (naked courier bikes etc) and placing a plate on the front would give chance for wind to catch it and make you swerve etc.

if they did make you paint it on however (or put it on in the factory etc) could always varnish the bugger, so it doesnt show up in the flash.
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[mchaggis]

If you put the plate on the front in the centre line of the bike, it will have next to no effect on the straight line stability, in free air at any rate. Even in dubious conditions it isn't large enough to be affected adversely by local effects. (Oddities such as turbulence following trucks etc.)

All it would do would be to increase the drag coefficient of the bike. Perhaps not even that much if it was placed at the stagnation point.

Forward facing number plates could be put on cruisers/ commuter bikes at the drop of a hat, though they would need new size regulation as they couldn't be as large as the rear. If you see countries in which they are mandatory, then the riders often tend to ride commuter/ cruiser types of bike, so fitting is not an issue.

Sportsbikes are not designed to have them, so would be more tricky, but it could be designed without too much trouble if needs be, though the manufacturers would not be happy having to design front fairings specifically for the UK. Neither would the DVLA and VOSA be happy when imported bikes didn't/ couldn't have them on.

Retro-fitting them to sportsbikes would be difficult unless they were a type which would mold over the bodywork. I reckon you could get rid of a fair bit of rider dissent by doing that. It would however ruin the appearance of sportsbikes, with a numberplate being the main focus of their visage.

Essentially, it's just never going to happen, without a major change in thinking by the mainstream government, motorcycle manufacturers and riders. That doesn't mean that there won't be people trying, as they always do, to bring in new legislation which royally screws people over without anyone noticing. Be grateful for the BMF and other similar lobbying bodies.

What would royally screw them over would be the fitment of number plates on the sides of bikes. This is of course the origin of the number plate, being the boiler plate on steam traction engines, which are on the sides of the boiler. According to an old ex-engineer of Ford, they are still legal. Whether they are legal on bikes is another matter.
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[natv4]

I heard somewhere that the next generation of SPECS (measure speed over a distance) are going to have forward and rear facing cameras. So there will be no getting away. Does anyone else know anything about these?
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