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Rob W World Chat Champion
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Posted: 19:53 - 17 Aug 2018 Post subject: |
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Have you tried this?
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
Should be able to tell you exactly what the DVLA have on record at least. ____________________ '16 GSX-S1000F |
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Tony12345 Two Stroke Sniffer
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Posted: 20:22 - 17 Aug 2018 Post subject: |
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Hi rob, yep I found that website 3 weeks ago, mine and my stepsons licences come up with out errors, I found info useful as now on the plastic licence it doesn't show any provisional entitlement I have, this website gave me that extra info .
This is the interesting part I entered the details of the plastic card she has and it comes up with no details, just the error saying wrong details entered. Now the plastic card shows an error on the month of birth as 55. I entered all the details again from the card but changed the 55 to 03 (month of birth no such date as the 55th month lol). It came up with "unable to retrieve data" or words to that description.
So was unable to get any info |
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Tony12345 Two Stroke Sniffer
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Tony12345 wrote: | Thanks for info, I was running out of ideas on a work around, lol we will try that.
Searching for a resolution on line over several months found this site :-www.whatdotheyknow.com
found a search on some one else in the same boat, but just had the brush off from dvla, I made an application here :- https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/wrong_driving_licence_number_and
But I hit a brick wall aswell. |
You hit a brick wall as you did the wrong kind of request. You did an FOI request whereas you need to do a Subject access request.
Tony12345 wrote: | On another note I did find some gov info on dvla section that back a few years ago dvla used a 3rd party outside agency that was brought in to help with the back log, and this seems where dvla messed up as wrong details were entered by this 3rd party, and poeple that had passed their tests found out later dvla "had no info" on their pass. |
Only partialy correct. DVLA have used outside staff for years on and off to clear back logs but this doesn't mean the problem was caused by one of them.
Tony12345 wrote: | P.S would it be better to go to the DVLA office? We have one in Peterborough, as a phone call they always say "we cant give details due to data protection" |
No you don't EVER visit DVLA in person, you do EVERYTHING via writing with recorded delivery so you have a record.
Pete. wrote: | That must be what happened to my dad years ago. The last test he passed was HGV1. Years later he sent off his license for some update or other and he got nothing back. When he queried it with DVLA they had no record of any license for him. He had his HGV license, and luckily he had a photocopy of his car and bike license (it was the only thing he could think of to test out his new printer/scanner/copier). He had to send off the copy of the license to get all his entitlements back. |
At a guess what happened to your father was subtley different. The chances are someone at DVLA wiped his license completely from the system. The license was recoverable due to the photo copies having a valid license No. but my belief is he realised before 3 months was up so there was still a copy on the system.
DVLA have yearly snapshots of the system but day to day they run a rolling 90 day backup. Once a record change hits 90 days it is overwritten so cannot be recalled UNLESS it is recorded in the yearly snapshot.
The reason to ask for microfilm copies is your wifes license predates DVLA and all information from back then was transferred to microfilm/microfiche.
This data certainly still exists, its in a warehouse in Morriston but some did get destroyed about a decade back in a fire. |
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Tony12345 wrote: |
Hi rob, yep I found that website 3 weeks ago, mine and my stepsons licences come up with out errors, I found info useful as now on the plastic licence it doesn't show any provisional entitlement I have, this website gave me that extra info .
This is the interesting part I entered the details of the plastic card she has and it comes up with no details, just the error saying wrong details entered. Now the plastic card shows an error on the month of birth as 55. I entered all the details again from the card but changed the 55 to 03 (month of birth no such date as the 55th month lol). It came up with "unable to retrieve data" or words to that description.
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A female driver number has 5 added to the first number of the month of birth so yours should be 53. 55 would be a female born in may. |
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This is what the licence number means:
Each driving licence holder in England, Scotland and Wales has a 16 character long, unique driver number. The characters are formulated in the following way:
CHARACTERS 1-5: These are the first five characters of the driver’s surname and if it’s less than five, it’s filled up with nines
CHARACTER 6: The decade digit from the year of birth. For example, 1993 would be 9
CHARACTERS 7-8: These are the month of birth, so December would be 12. For female drivers, the seventh character is incremented by a 5 – so 51-62 instead of 01-12
CHARACTERS 9-10: The date within the month of birth – this would be 01-31
CHARACTER 11: The year digit from the year of birth. For example, 1993 would be 3
CHARACTERS 12-13: The first two initials of the first names – if driver has no middle name, the character is replaced with a 9
CHARACTER 14: Random digit, typically 9
CHARACTERS 15-16: Two computer check digits
CHARACTERS 17-18: Appended, two digits representing the licence issue – increase by one for each licence issued |
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They are hugely incompetant. They misspelled my name for 12 years over 6 seperate driving licences.
I also submitted a logbook recording a change of colour of a motorcycle five times. Each time they sent a new one back with no change made and a standard letter saying they had checked the details and there was nothing wrong. I gave up in the end.
They also added a new owner to all of my vehicles when I moved house and informed them of my change of address. I did nothing abou tit because they are all old and clapped-out and unlikely to be sold for much when I'm finished with them.
For future reference, it may help someone, I personally do not return my old driving licences. I claim it was lost and pay the extra fee for the new one. I consider this as "insurance" in case they cock up. I still have every photocard licence I have been issued ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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By way of having an official copy of your license entitlements for future reference, if you use the DVLA website linked at the bottom of this post you can save a copy of the web page they present at the end of the process. I have a saved and archived copy showing all of my entitlements and the dates they run from like when I passed tests. The DVLA are notoriously shabby about how they do things. This won't help the OP with his wife's problem but it might give peace of mind to others in case of future fuck ups.
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence ____________________ 2016 Triumph Street Twin; 2000 Honda CG125; 1997 Honda Nighthawk CB250 |
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A few years ago the BBC programme 'Watchdog' had a representative from the DVLA on and he was questioned by that ginger woman.He admitted that around 1% of people end up with lost details on their registration and driving documents.
That was some revelation as 1% of 26 million plus people with a driving licence is quite a large number
I have just looked up my details and for some reason I have lost my 'E' entitlement... ____________________ Just talk bikes.What else is there?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 277 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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