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AshWebster Brolly Dolly
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Posted: 15:23 - 13 Sep 2018 Post subject: Work Dilemma |
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Want an opinion on my situation, ill try to give as broad of a scene as possible but theres some job info i cant divuldge.
I work for a large engineering company, they pay decently and its quite a hard place to get into. I served a 3 year apprenticeship and then was offered a full time role upon completion. The last 6 months of my apprenticeship was in final placement where I am currently. I've been in my current role for around 1 year.
The job is doing "tasks" and im in a team of 8. We pick tasks from an electronic list which is filled by manufacturing. The tasks can be quite involved or fairly simple, taking either a few hours or a few days to complete.
However I am finding I am completing a LOT more tasks than my peers (you can check how long it has taken them to sign out and complete a task). I used to think it was because i just cherry picked the 'easier' jobs or rushing the work... but even then I am finding 20 mins tasks (for me) people will take days to complete. Even now i am picking up all types of jobs and completing far quicker than my peers.
Now i am not saying i am smarter than these people. Most are old (55+) , and have vast knowledge on the subject matter. However if i dont understand a task that i have picked up i will go about finding out how to resolve it , even if it is a difficult task. Sometimes, yes, i will ask them for help/guidance but usually only the harder working people.
In the year i've recorded my tasks on a spreadsheet (for reference on similar tasks), and have around 500 completed. I estimate most others have around 200, possible 300.
So thats that then////
Am I right in feeling hard done by? My manager (who is newer to the team than me) is really pushing me to be a part of the business and wants me to progress. I love my job and am thankful for it, do i risk upsetting the balance by asking for a grade rise or do i just carry on as normal and look for internal openings to progress? ____________________ Honda cg125 J reg peice of shit ---> CB650F ---> 2016 CBR600RR
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If your line manager is pushing you to progress, go and talk to him about how he thinks you should aim at that progression.
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You can't do too much for a good guvnor. Do more and get more given to you to do. While that's great when on price
work, anywhere else being keen at a low pay grade will just saddle you with more work to do. The old boys have
sussed this out. Besides, they don't need to work as hard as you. I'd bet most have their mortgages paid and
with any luck their kids have probably fucked off too. Leaving them better off than they have been for years. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Posted: 18:43 - 13 Sep 2018 Post subject: Re: Work Dilemma |
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AshWebster wrote: | Am I right in feeling hard done by? My manager (who is newer to the team than me) is really pushing me to be a part of the business and wants me to progress. I love my job and am thankful for it, do i risk upsetting the balance by asking for a grade rise or do i just carry on as normal and look for internal openings to progress? |
I am uncertain what you mean by "Am I right in feeling hard done by?", but I assume you're doing more work for the same money as others.
How is "pushing you to be a part of the business and wants me to progress" different from "look for internal openings to progress"? I don't understand that bit.
Talk to your manager when you can get a suitable private moment (when he's not flat out).
I would not be inclined to say anything like "Have you seen how much more I do than them", because it should be obvious to anyone looking at your sheet, which they should be doing. Just "I've been working hard" or something if it needs to be said. If you are comfortable working at the rate you're working at, and are turning out good work, keep doing it, but if there is an opening (as I say, I don't understand what you said), take it, or you'll be "that chap who works hard but wants to stay where he is".
Perhaps you can re-phrase or elucidate. |
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Been in your current role for about a year? So you'll be due an appraisal soon?
That would seem to be the place to raise this issue. That said, given your managers comment about progression, you might not have to. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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In not the same position as you, I felt a bit undervalued, so applied for another job .... got offered it.
Told my Boss and he said to name my price. I did, and he paid. A year on, or so, I should have moved. My boss is a decent guy, the company, meh. I think I stayed because my boss fought to keep me, he marched straight to the director after I told him I'd been offered a job, and I like the guy. Doesn't change the job though.
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DrSnoosnoo wrote: | In not the same position as you, I felt a bit undervalued, so applied for another job .... got offered it.
Told my Boss and he said to name my price. I did, and he paid. A year on, or so, I should have moved. My boss is a decent guy, the company, meh. I think I stayed because my boss fought to keep me, he marched straight to the director after I told him I'd been offered a job, and I like the guy. Doesn't change the job though.
You can always try applying for other places, even if you have no intention of leaving, but if nobody else even asks you for an interview, you can have an idea of your skill level of others in the job market. |
NEVER take a counter offer.
You invariably realise it was about more than the money and then want to move on anyway.
If they were so willing to let you name your price when you threatened to leave, then why were you not worth that before then? I'f you have to push that hard for a raise, they dont respect you, so hold your head high and walk. |
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B5234FT wrote: | DrSnoosnoo wrote: | In not the same position as you, I felt a bit undervalued, so applied for another job .... got offered it.
Told my Boss and he said to name my price. I did, and he paid. A year on, or so, I should have moved. My boss is a decent guy, the company, meh. I think I stayed because my boss fought to keep me, he marched straight to the director after I told him I'd been offered a job, and I like the guy. Doesn't change the job though.
You can always try applying for other places, even if you have no intention of leaving, but if nobody else even asks you for an interview, you can have an idea of your skill level of others in the job market. |
NEVER take a counter offer.
You invariably realise it was about more than the money and then want to move on anyway.
If they were so willing to let you name your price when you threatened to leave, then why were you not worth that before then? I'f you have to push that hard for a raise, they dont respect you, so hold your head high and walk. |
Very much this. Lad at our place left a couple of months ago, after the annual review he said he felt undervalued and wanted a bit extra in light of the work he does (between me and him, we could cover almost all bases within the company).
They turned him down, he looked elsewhere. Got offered the job, told them, they instantly offered him a not mediocre raise, but he'd seen exactly what you said, that they should have offered him that anyway. He bailed and is loving his new job.
I'll be considering the same action plan next year, I didn't get a review as I'd had half a year away with my job kept open and still paid, albeit not full wage. Come back, and the place is stacking family members up, where it's getting to the point that they can't be held accountable, because family.
Getting my Christmas bonus/potential year end bonus/considering my pay review for next year beforehand though. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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