Give me a bike they don't make!

[chickenstrip]

What would you have?

I want a 500cc two stroke twin with a good, light chassis, top quality suspension and brakes, upright riding position. Maybe a little, sleek nose-cone fairing, and expansion chambers that crackle. Make sure it has a looney-tunes power band, book me a bed in A&E, and I'll be happy
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[Beehive Bedlam]

Something like this.https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/a3/c2/bca3c2138cdba0deabcd382aa652fc1a.jpg

[Sister Sledge]

A lightweight bike with a diesel engine.
Lightweight as in smaller diesel engine, probably around 250 cc sized maximum. It's not about speed etc - it's how you use it and the frame handling well.
Make the engine capable of running on cooking oils, kerosene etc and I'd be a happy man.
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[chickenstrip]

[Shaft]

Deauville with the VFR800 engine, retaining shaft drive.
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[MarJay]

I thought for years about building a trellis frame for an Aprillia Mille 60 degree V twin to make it a fast naked that wasn't a Tuono. If only because the Tuono is far too tall for me. What I had in my head ended up being telepathically stolen by Ariel for their ridiculous expensive thing they produce.

https://www.arielmotor.co.uk/style/temp/aceIntro/fullSize/sportAndCars.jpg

Didn't want a V four and it's too long and heavy for my vision, but it looks pretty much exactly as I imagined it.

I also considered putting a 350 powervalve motor in something decent. For a while it was going to be a Mito, but then I saw a guy called Martin Johnson do it to an NSR250 rolling chassis. With a bunch of Banshee tuning mods you could easily get 120bhp and 120kg.

To be honest though, two strokes are just a pain. My KR1S has flipped a ring peg and has now got at least one scored barrel. I'm seriously tempted to sell it and never buy another two stroke. Every one I've had apart from my TZR has blown up or not worked in some way. I do love two strokes though, a little bit too much, so it might not be long before I end up buying something stupid like a reverse seizure or something.

Anyway, back to my point. The Street Triple R is basically what you describe without the two stroke-ness. It's light, has a bit of grunt, revs almost as much as a four, handles amazingly well, sounds epic and does everything you could need. It's upright, has a small cockpit fairing and screen and to me just represents pure motorcycling fun.

Nowadays I'd probably want a very physically small 750cc sportsbike with a narrow light engine. I expect Triumph are building one right now, considering they now have their 765 engine in Moto2 next year.
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[chickenstrip]

[MarJay]

[The Shaggy D.A.]

Shaft drive Enfield. But that's pretty much a BMW R27. So make it a V-Twin. But then you've got a Guzzi.

Maybe a CG350? But then you have an Enfield.

OK.

My bike, but smoother, shaft drive, capable of 100mpg at 100mph. And a trip counter.
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[chickenstrip]

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[thx1138]

an electric dirt bike with a range of a few hundred miles

[G]

Okay, ignoring the second bit - the first bit is "serious/not serious".

When I had the GSXR1000 as a daily-rider, while it was a supremely capable bike for road use, that also made it supremely boring to some degree.
I'd wondered about having a multiple-map switch with some really restrictive maps to make back road riding a bit more fun. As other it's a reasonably light weight bike with decent handling and okay brakes.
Also wondered about adding a 'fake gear' option to that - as it topped out over 100mph in first gear, you could try and 'fake' a whole range of gears with programmable power profiles with just one by allowing you to flick up a gear to change a rev limiter and the power delivery.

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[DrDonnyBrago]

XSR1000. i.e. an MT10 that doesn't look like a mechanioid preying mantis.

That, or an SV1000X. I.e. a modern Japanese big twin that looks a bit like a SV650X.


I would buy either of those.

[stinkwheel]

A VFR750 turbo.
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[dydey90]

[chickenstrip]

[Polarbear]

[stevo as b4]

Interesting thread. The brand new bike design bit I'll struggle with, but wanting a fun bike I'm all over that idea!

As for the Diesel bike idea, yeah I see that if it's a small lightish and laid back town centre cruiser if you will. A 15bhp single pot diesel engine will suit such a bike far better than an 11000rpm Varadero 125 lump. I also like that slow melody of a little diesel engine, it's quite chilled out.

An XSR 1000 is a great idea and better still an RD350LC lookalike as a company is now convincingly doing for the triple.

Marjay I'd actually like to try riding a Buell one day, as the capable short chassis with a non suited engine combination sounds like an interesting bike!

I'd forget modern/new two strokes and dreams of much more reliability and lifespan. When they got to 300bhp+/litre that was when two strokes would never meet these aims. Its not what they are all about either, and I agree with Blue about keeping EFI away from strokers as it's just not needed, nor is over sanitised power delivery.

I think the best closest bikes to Chicken strips criteria are the two TDR 500 specials I've seen. One has a tuned 80-90bhp big bore Banshee twin in it, and the other is an RD500 lump. The 4 stingers in a row under the tail unit do it for me!

As for making a bike that doesn't exist, well I always liked the Aprilia SVX550, and don't see why a light exotic road legal supermoto can't have a twin/triple or 4cylinder motor in it? If it's purely for a road bike for fun a Daytona 675 or R6 engine should be good, as would a tuned MT07 or ER6 engine.

Oh and I'm pretty sure these days if I was able to own a 500cc two stroke bike it really would need to be a big hard to start single that shakes your arms off if it doesn't break your ankle first.