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Baffler186
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Suzuki GT380? Reply with quote

I'm eyeing up a project bike, gt380 1976. Wondered if anyone has/had one? I know I'll need to spend a lot on it, but are they a usable every day bike? Are they easy to rebuild? I just lost out on a xs400, should i stick with 4 strokes or is the 380 a good shout?

And yes, I'll be doing what everyone seems to be doing, a scrambler type build. Not an OEM parts restoration
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap, Heavy, needs a lot of work to be anything special. I wasn't a fan, flogged it off quickly when I had one 20+ years ago, and I love 2T bikes.

Regardless of bike used, Scrambler/cafe racer build are almost always some fuckwit slapping a flat "seat" covered in a shitty brown vinyl on a subframe with birdshit welding, mounting holes wallered out by the blunt masonry bit they used to drill it, and poundlands finest gloss black, sans primer (or any prep at all). Well done ones are few and far between.

If you want a 2T, then why not something rare, unusual, or barking mad?
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blau has one i think.

Unfortunately he's not speaking to us cool kids in whatsapp so I can't tell him about this thread.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll look fucking awful and a nasty abomination of a bike done as a scrambler.

I'd restore it to original as it'll be worth a fair sum if done well and in correct colours, pipes etc. Will be a ton of money to spend though on parts and chroming etc.

Or if it's not all 90% there, then I'd possibly consider doing a really good authentic cafe racer build, but with the emphasis on performance not style as even a great Triton style cafe bike, won't look as good as an original bike.

Do sensible changes and upgrades that'll make it ride better, more reliable, faster, or brake better etc.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve ridden most things but the GT380 remains about my favourite bike of all time. Comfortable, mega torque from Idle, super reliable and stunning looks. Also pioneered the gear position indicator and pass light. It’s bizarre and quite special to ride an amazing grand tourer that is also a 2T. I wouldn’t use one as a base for anything other than a standard bike though, too heavy and wrong engine characteristics to make sense as anything else.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks. So they sound reliable and fun enough? I'm not concerned with how crap people think budget builds look. I just want a project to do to my own taste. Preferably something i can buy cheap. Not fussed about making money on it. I'll see what it goes for.

I'm bored of my SV as i don't get to use it's power 90% of the time, and my wrists and back could do with a rest.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baffler186 wrote:
Reliable and fun enough? Usable every day bike?


1976 Razz

If you want to have a go on ''unusual'' retro machine, try Jawa, CZ, MZ... Those things will run regardless of how crappy the previous owners were, plus all the parts, and I mean all of them, are still widely available and affordable (still being manufactured). All of the consumables are generic, all of the motorcycles are very simple machines, very easy to keep alive. Also, very good MPG, compared to my previous motorcycles.

The best, most advanced, of those three is MZ. I ride MZ 150 ETZ, Perfect for daily riding it. A 250 variant would be nice (*cough, a 250 engine fits into the 150/125 frame). Maintenance cost is negligible.

EDIT II: MZ (etz) also came with contactless ignition as standard. Runs better, smoother and starts with ease, no need to fiddle with it, will never wear out. Unlike the Jawa/CZ/Suzuki GTs, which came with the ''old'' contact point ignition. So I would definitely be upgrading that, if I got such motorcycle. You would not believe the difference, upgrading a motorcycle from contact point to contactless ignition, plus once you set the contactless ignition up, it'll stay perfect forever! Razz
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
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Reliable and fun enough? Usable every day bike?


1976 Razz
We were forced to have an afternoon nap at junior school in 1976 due to the heat that year. This consisted of me with my head on my folded arms wide awake for an hour whilst everyone else snored quietly.

This has nothing to do with iffy two strokes, sorry.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

yen_powell wrote:
We were forced to have an afternoon nap at junior school in 1976 due to the heat that year. This consisted of me with my head on my folded arms wide awake for an hour whilst everyone else snored quietly.

This has nothing to do with iffy two strokes, sorry.

All I was trying to say was, that OP should not expect it to ride like an modern machine and that in all those years there were many people trying to maintain and fix the machine he's looking for. So, cheap bikes will probably need a lot of time and effort to make them go again and the nice machines will cost tons of money.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 02 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


EDIT II: MZ (etz) also came with contactless ignition as standard. Runs better, smoother and starts with ease, no need to fiddle with it, will never wear out. Unlike the Jawa/CZ/Suzuki GTs, which came with the ''old'' contact point ignition. So I would definitely be upgrading that, if I got such motorcycle. You would not believe the difference, upgrading a motorcycle from contact point to contactless ignition, plus once you set the contactless ignition up, it'll stay perfect forever! Razz


A lot of bs about points. On my YR5 I adjusted them twice in eight years, not because they were hugely out of tune, but because I wanted to justify have the generator cover off. The only advantage of going CDI is if you go for a programmable system. Points are lighter as well.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 03 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


EDIT II: MZ (etz) also came with contactless ignition as standard.


Only from 1989 onwards (ETZ 251 models). ETZ's were made from 1981. As far as I'm aware, contactless ingition was an option, as a lot of post '89 until '91 had contact breakers still. It was only after '91 until MZ's demise that they seemed to have it as standard.


And, to me- contact breakers vs electronic ignition- I've felt no difference really.. Just like iridium sparkies. If everything is set up properly, the standard items of release will last thousands of miles without adjustment.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 03 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

yen_powell wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:


1976 Razz
We were forced to have an afternoon nap at junior school in 1976 due to the heat that year. This consisted of me with my head on my folded arms wide awake for an hour whilst everyone else snored quietly.

This has nothing to do with iffy two strokes, sorry.


A bloke across the road from me when I were a kid had one. He used it every day. It didn't grab my attention like the gleaming red and black Benelli 900 Sei around the corner, that nearly destroyed my ear drums every time it went past.

Also no help to OP, sorry Smile
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 03 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

eh just rebuild it using whats there, and what you dont have find genuine period parts, ebay and autojumbles. then ride it
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 03 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Rhyno said try a MZ or Jawa/CZ .
I’ve been looking for a CZ 250 twin or a MZ 250 at a reasonable price for a long time.
A cheap/ reasonably priced runner is almost impossible to find in the UK.
There are certainly a one or two broken old nails about onThief-bay, but a mechanicaly sound item at a good price, not at chance.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 03 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one briefly in my late teens, many years ago,

As a first foray into the big bike world I loved its power and the exhaust note. Gear indicator was neat.

Swapped it for a trials bike for the girlfriend.

In hindsight, I should have swapped the girlfriend instead as the bike was much more of a keeper.
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