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bigdom86
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: supermoto Reply with quote

does anyone do a city commute on a supermoto? pros/cons? recommendations? reliable?

Still waiting on a MT09 to come up in one of the two dealers close to me who will give me a good P/X on my CBR.

Saw a DRZ400 the other day on the way home and it looked pretty comfy and would be suitable for a 6ft2 20st guy Laughing main reason I'm changing to a supernaked is for comfort reasons and good on the city commute

from my searches the DRZ400 and XT660 seem to be the main japanese larger capacity supermotos
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait for the MT. Me and the Mrs weigh about 25 stone between us and my MT is still plenty powerful two up. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

one con is they're really uncomfy - okay, you're only commuting but even so - dem seats are hard as fuck, thin, and annoying

the bikes are comfy in the sense of sit to peg being really generous, plus sit up & beg bar style etc. - but this should imo be off-set against the arse discomfort (and if you're a 20 stone unit that could be quite considerable)
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
one con is they're really uncomfy - okay, you're only commuting but even so - dem seats are hard as fuck, thin, and annoying

Yamaha make a comfort seat for it for those that don't have the thicker seat found on the Sport Tracker Wink which also
additionally increases the seat height a little. I can only get one foor down on mine and I'm 6ft.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think TSCG means supermoto seat. Mt09 is a sofa in comprison to drz. Xt660 has a bit more padding and is not bad. I'd look at 660 engined mt03 as well.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Kentol750 wrote:
I think TSCG means supermoto seat. Mt09 is a sofa in comprison to drz. Xt660 has a bit more padding and is not bad. I'd look at 660 engined mt03 as well.


I have considered a MT07, but with my height and weight thinking it may be too small, also usually only around £1k difference in used models between 07 and 09, one thing i do prefer on the 07 is the seat looks much nicer, don't know why they gave the 09 such an ugly seat, the 10 is really nice and would buy if I did motorway but my commute from Kent into central London is all 20-30-40mph roads so a 10 is wasted
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally if looking for a road based supermoto I'd probably be looking at the husky 701/KTM 690 SMC. Supermotos are superb fun in a technical road and about town.

The MT09 is more versatile though and will offer similar thrills. Great fun machines with just the right amount of bonkers.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kentol750 wrote:
I think TSCG means supermoto seat. Mt09 is a sofa in comprison to drz.


yep - exactly

it was a cross post - i thought i was the first to reply (must've got distracted by the kids or summert)
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're filtering the DRZ bars are going to be right at van wing mirror height.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'3 and about 15 stone. I had a drz400 for a few years. It was modded with a yoshimura exhaust, 3x3 airbox. It was fine for doing long distances, but I still would have liked a bit more poke. That's probably just me though.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 02 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't be comfortable on any supermoto for more than an hour, no one is ever!

They are like trail or Enduro bikes something you could commute to work on if you had to, but they are far from ideal/comfy or usefully practical etc.

Supermoto bikes are designed for fucking about on in an antisocial way for short periods of time, or for track use. They aren't good distance cruisers or vibration free easy to ride middleweights etc.

GRRR is right, wait for a naked road bike to come up if you plan on doing any serious riding or daily commuting.

Supermotos get stolen and wreaked by hoodies too. They don't bother to sell the parts as they are usually all fucked by then.
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 03 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
You won't be comfortable on any supermoto for more than an hour, no one is ever!



Not necessarily true. I did about 250 miles on a crf250l the other day, on road, and it was fine. Regular stops for fuel help, as does the fact that it was quite technical riding so I was moving around a lot.

That's with the stock seat too.

It would be a different story on the motorway though I reckon.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 03 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be a more comfy bike then. 140miles in an evening on a KMX 200 was painful!

Also supermoto bikes are generally derived from Enduro, Motocross, or trail bikes. So it's not just about seat comfort, they are often angry snappy bikes that like throttle open or throttle closed. They often don't like constant speed bimbling along or sustained main road cruising. And they to differing extents often vibrate quite severely at times.

Theres very little thats sensible or useful in a supermoto bike depending on if your talking a light competition derived type of bike or a funky styled road bike like a Ducati Hypermotard etc?
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 03 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup they hurt your arse lots. 100 miles is enough to make me put it away.
Bars prevent filtering lots of the time. That aggressive snappy nature can be a challenge to ride smoothly with traffic. Theft fear is massive.
Personally I'd wait for something else for commuting.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got an 07 husqvarna sm610i here I want to sell. 7k on the clock. Talon wheels etc. Drz weight but pokier. Pm if interested. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: re Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Got an 07 husqvarna sm610i here I want to sell. 7k on the clock. Talon wheels etc. Drz weight but pokier. Pm if interested. Thumbs Up


looks interesting never even heard of one of those Laughing don't think it meets ULEZ though, I will do some research
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
garth wrote:
Got an 07 husqvarna sm610i here I want to sell. 7k on the clock. Talon wheels etc. Drz weight but pokier. Pm if interested. Thumbs Up


looks interesting never even heard of one of those Laughing don't think it meets ULEZ though, I will do some research


They've got a good rep as a street supermoto. Don't see them for sale much in the UK, I was looking for one a few years back but gave up. Decent performance whilst still maintaining reasonable service intervals.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

KTM Duke790.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 05 Sep 2019    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Kentol750 wrote:
KTM Duke790.


thought of a KTM whilst waiting for the MT09 but stories of KTMs reliability put me off, nice bikes though!
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 05 Sep 2019    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

kgm wrote:

They've got a good rep as a street supermoto. Don't see them for sale much in the UK, I was looking for one a few years back but gave up. Decent performance whilst still maintaining reasonable service intervals.



https://i.ibb.co/5GfdR4x/IMG-20190705-161345325-HDR.jpg

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PostPosted: 18:06 - 05 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had one for 6 weeks, done 2000 and a bit miles. It's a fine bit of kit. Needed a bike for work that was a bit more fun on my commute than a cbr500 and more comfortable than my 99 cbr 600. Cbr500 gone, duke just does everything well. (Followed manufacturer's instructions whilst running in.)
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 06 Sep 2019    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

garth wrote:
kgm wrote:

They've got a good rep as a street supermoto. Don't see them for sale much in the UK, I was looking for one a few years back but gave up. Decent performance whilst still maintaining reasonable service intervals.



https://i.ibb.co/5GfdR4x/IMG-20190705-161345325-HDR.jpg

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Tempted! looks sexy, as I never heard of them (I've only ever been into sports bikes) I need to do a bit more research and will get back to you, don't want to ask you reg no., do you mind plugging in the ULEZ machine and seeing if ULEZ compliant?
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 06 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says "You are not subject to the ULEZ. You do not need to take any action".
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