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chris___ · Brolly Dolly Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Karma :

Can someone please give me some advice as to why my bike doesn't like going into neutral please!? Its a yamaha rxs100.
It seems to go in better when its moving, but if i come to a stop at lights and i'm in first at a standstill it just will not go into neutral for some reason Confused

cheers

chris
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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

Give it a wee rev then try.

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Aikman666 · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Karma :

Does the lever jam or does it skip it and go into the gear above/below?
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White Noise · Mr Dudwee Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Karma :

maybe the clutch is a bit cold, what you can do it while in neutral give it a little revs and let out the clutch just a little then try to put it into first, it should clunck in, be sure to be covering the brakes when you do it! Very Happy

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garth · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Karma :

It's quite common, just snick it into neutral before you stop.

I can't tell you why it won't do it, something to do with about three billion tiny cogs not spinning at the same rate I suspect! Razz

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chris___ · Brolly Dolly Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Karma :

Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

I suspect it's suffering from "I'm-an-old-bike-that's-been-ragged-for-a-decade-syndrome".

Get used to holding that clutch in Wink

My MZ was tempramental about going into neutral, it was easier to knock down from second though.

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Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

It won't fail an MOT for that.

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

They don't test the engine or gearbox during the MOT, it certainly used to be the case that you didn't even have to have an engine in the bike, you could MOT a rolling chassis.

We are spoiled these days because most modern bikes have a neutral finder in the gearbox that makes the change to neutral when stationary very positive. Many older bikes are (and always were) a complete pig to get into neutral when stationary, you get used to it with practice.
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culpan · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Karma :

If your not sure go to a local bike shop and get them to have a look at it, firstly its not going to cost too much (you hope) and secondly the pro's should be able to fix it.

mr.z · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

An oil (and filter) change might help, ive found when the oil needs a change getting it into neutral at stop is a pain (it tends to skip past) my cx did the same so did my cg... worth a go...

Edit: One other cgs little tricks i'd forgoten about... Engine off, first gear, leting the clutch out drag the bike backwards and then try going up a gear, if not move forward and then back again.. yep that was a bit of a pain...
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beast rider · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

As evryone else has said its a common problem with old bikes, the trick i was told and has worked till now is grab the front brake and let out the clutch a little till it starts to pull, then bring the clutch back in and try for neutral again it normally works for me.

Scotsman37 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Karma :

You may need to get your clutch plates replaced as they maybe now wearing out !

Clutch Kits and read the info section shown next your model of bike via a link;

https://www.gear4bikes.com/acatalog/Yamaha_Clutch_Kits.html

mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 May 2004 Karma :

Just wheeling the bike back a few inches whilst putting pressure on the lever can be a big help and normally makes it work.

Alternatively, adjusting the clutch cable tighter so that it pulls the plates further apart fully in can be a help but probably won't be much use for going slowly as the biting point will be much further forward and they might not engage fully when the lever is fully out.

A poorly adjusted clutch can make a fairly major difference to gear selection if it's too loose, and if it's too tight, it'll slip at high rpm.

At the end of it all, getting used to pulling off in second gear and slipping the clutch will be of most use in sticky spots. Sometimes it just doesn't want to play.
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