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A suspended prison sentence. Thank you courts, I'm sure that will deter him.  ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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A suspended prison sentence. Thank you courts, I'm sure that will deter him.  |
I agree, suspended sentence is shit, but, at least the police didn't give up, stopped him, and, he's at least lost the bike. Some decent riding by the police rider, riding that hulk around chasing and keeping up with the off roader. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Sadly yet again a knobhead has shown bikers/bike riders in a bad light.
Secondly a bike has been crushed , that could have lived its twilight years in my nice warm garage and only come out to play when the Sun shone. ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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If I'd been caught doing 80mph in a 30 limit on my taxed, insured, MOTed bike with a full licence and had stopped immediately. I'd have been given a 4-figure fine, 6+points a ban and most likely actual jail time. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Nice work by the local police, well done guys!
I hope they also stopped the others before they killed anyone and crushed their bikes too! I agree with Polar bear that a short prison sentence should have been mandatory, and they should be paying the days wages to those Cops at least.
Now onto the riding facilities argument. Well nobody is or should be mandated to provide an off road place to ride for people with non road legal bikes. But there's a little but!
Some off road bikes are not MX machines and thus are not allowed on MX tracks and for many good reasons too. Some are not road legal, and can't be registered as they don't meet type approval. Now there is a small demand for responsible people who have fully legal means to transport said bikes to an off road facility to ride them.
There is just a few true pay and play sites around, and they are not evenly located around the country. People like me would pay circa £30-40 for a large place to ride for a day, to practice off road riding, and test a bike out etc. If said facility had a secure car park, a snack wagon and a jet wash then it would be even better.
I know that there's nothing to stop a private land owner (public complaints aside) to allow permission for own risk riding if they wanted to, and I believe that even if they charge a fee they have no liability whatsoever too which is exactly how it should be.
But getting to the point, not everyone has an MX bike or can ride MX. And not everyone who owns even a whisper quiet fully road legal bike, wants to put in a long day of road riding miles to find 1-2miles of sporadic green lanes at best.
I once saw some guys with trials bikes who were practicing on Bodmin Moor, in a pretty quiet place that I'd spent over an hour hiking to reach from a car park. They were riding illegally and I know how wrong it is.
But they IMO hadn't ruined the Moorland for 100's of years, or frightened animals, dog walkers, children or run anyone over. My friends from the area had a right go about them when I told them what I saw, and while I understand why and the fact that it's breaking the law, I felt for the guys riding the bikes who weren't really hurting anyone.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that wouldn't it be nice to have a few isolated areas that are a free for all for people who want to practice sports, and hobbies. Be it riding motorcycles, mountain bikes, flying model aeroplanes, driving Land rovers, or other stuff like hang gliding, microlighting, messing around in power boats etc etc.
I know I'm the most unrealistic twat for wishing the above, but the right to roam and the right to enjoy leisure pursuits at the weekends in the countryside was a wonderful thing once. |
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| Polarbear wrote: |
A suspended prison sentence. Thank you courts, I'm sure that will deter him.  |
If you can’t give em sentence, at least dish out several hundred hours of community service.... 400 hours of picking up rubbish for no pay in pissing rain might make em think twice next time. ____________________ DILLIGAF |
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The page also lists the 10 other authorised governing bodies. That page has been up for a good 12-15 years. If it wasn't true it would have been challenged by now as it would be very detrimental to other event organisers.
MOD Woodbridge (formerly RAF Woodbridge) can hardly be called a public place, you have to get individual authorisation from the MOD for every single person attending (staff, spectators, racers, everyone) and the rules still applied there when I was doing top speed racing. |
What it says on the page is true. What you're invited to imply from that page, I'm not so convinced. Still comes down to what the definition of a "public place" and "the public" is.
The MOD largely does what the MOD wants to do and I can attest to the fact that they on occasion drive vehicles in a highly irresponsible and/or dangerous manner on large MOD exercise areas. Such as in the dark with no lights on or while wearing a respirator. Or even blindfold with someone else telling you where to steer. No authorisation required, presumably because it is not considered to be a "public place".
The very fact you has spectators at said event would, to me, make it a "public" event.
If it was a race-team doing a closed practice session on their own track, despite there being numerous staff present, possibly even multiple vehicles, I highly doubt they'd need "authorisation" to comply with the law? Because it is a "private" organisation, not "public". ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I dunno, I expect that the outcome of defining whether there are 'public present' in court depends on how expensive your lawyer is. Certainly the example Steve cited where a guy lets any Joe drive up and pay a tenner would qualify I should think. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 125 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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