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Butch1978
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Speedfight 3 50cc issues! Reply with quote

Ok here it goes abit of a long story!
I brought a speedfight 3 for my boy last year, his previous bike was written off so I had to replace it! The bike was cheap and now I know why 😂! It was originally spluttering and then cutting out and irregular revs! We put a new carb, new reeds and there was a split in the airborne which was repaired! The bike ran you a day! But hit full revs without using the throttle! Then wouldn’t start! We got it started But it constantly revs to the maximum! I am scratching my head as to understand why! Can anyone please help me before I accidently poor petrol over it it and flick a match at it 😂😂! The previous owner changed the rollers and put a sports clutch in! Not sure if that has something to do with the issues! Any help or suggestions gratefully received!


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PostPosted: 20:25 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the throttle sticking or being held open.

The clutch and the roller change are pretty much irrelevant (and also probably unhelpful; not bad, just of no "performance" use whatever).
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Sounds like the throttle sticking or being held open.

The clutch and the roller change are pretty much irrelevant (and also probably unhelpful; not bad, just of no "performance" use whatever).

The throttle cable isn’t sticking and it moves as it should! It just goes straight Max revs when it starts! And won’t back down unless it’s turned off!
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butch1978 wrote:
The throttle cable isn’t sticking and it moves as it should! It just goes straight Max revs when it starts! And won’t back down unless it’s turned off!

Does it emit huge clouds of smoke?
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Butch1978 wrote:
The throttle cable isn’t sticking and it moves as it should! It just goes straight Max revs when it starts! And won’t back down unless it’s turned off!

Does it emit huge clouds of smoke?


Nothing more than any other peds I have had
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the throttle was closing it should not go to max revs.

If it revs up it should be trying to move off and should not immediately get to max revs.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which carb is it?
Does the throttle cable enter the top of the carb or does it work at the side?
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
Which carb is it?
Does the throttle cable enter the top of the carb or does it work at the side?

The cable comes from the top! I will have to check Tommorrow! But it is an OEM standard carb
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
If the throttle was closing it should not go to max revs.

If it revs up it should be trying to move off and should not immediately get to max revs.


It revs like the throttle is on full! But it’s not! Note stuck! Which is really doing my head in!
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a speedfight for pity's sake. It really bugs me that people call it a damn speedfighter. I don't know why that bugs me so much but it does.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this might sound a bit out there but is the throttle slide the right way round , this could cause what your saying.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
It's a speedfight for pity's sake. It really bugs me that people call it a damn speedfighter. I don't know why that bugs me so much but it does.


Thanks for your useful input to the problem! Very helpful! But will change the post title to make you feel better 😂
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the throttle slide fitted correctly. throttle slide screw in to far.faulty choke

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PostPosted: 21:22 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to note the SPEEDFIGHT” “😂” has been started without the throttle cable attached! And it still high revs! So it’s not a Sticky cable
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butch1978 wrote:
Just to note the SPEEDFIGHT” “😂” has been started without the throttle cable attached! And it still high revs! So it’s not a Sticky cable


The auto choke has been disconnected and it still does it!
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still haven't said whether or hot the throttle is sticking. If there's a slice in the carb, check that and that it's assembled properly (as others have said).
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to mention that it was running fine! But when I gave it a long test run! A few days after the carb was fitted, It kept revving high when stationary! But only for a few seconds, then ticked over fine! Then when I dropped down from Full speed After about 10 minutes of riding that’s when the maximum rev kicked in! It popped off the lubricant pipe as well! Which I thought was strange as they are a tight fit in the carb!
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
You still haven't said whether or hot the throttle is sticking. If there's a slice in the carb, check that and that it's assembled properly (as others have said).


It’s not sticking! The cable has been removed and still high revving! It was running fine for a day then became possessed!
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video of the carb slide as you action the throttle plus.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

""""The auto choke has been disconnected and it still does it!"""

I thought the auto choke needed connection for it to work and come off providing it works !
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Video of the carb slide as you action the throttle plus.


I will try and get a video Tommorrow! But it full revs with the throttle cable disconnected! Which is why I am so confused!
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butch1978 wrote:
Riejufixing wrote:
You still haven't said whether or hot the throttle is sticking. If there's a slice in the carb, check that and that it's assembled properly (as others have said).

It’s not sticking! The cable has been removed and still high revving! It was running fine for a day then became possessed!

So perhaps the slide isn't closing, or it's put together wrongly. Have a look at it.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
""""The auto choke has been disconnected and it still does it!"""

I thought the auto choke needed connection for it to work and come off providing it works !


The auto choke was removed because we thought that was causing the issue, but it wasn’t! It didn’t need the auto choke connected to start After a few attempts to diagnose the issue
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! Will try and strip the carb down again and have a look! Something is defiantly wrong! And is frustrating!
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 20 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just seems strange that it was working for a day then didn’t after about 15 mins or so 🤔
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