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A100man
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 16 Apr 2020    Post subject: wheel building rim options Reply with quote

Started to replace the front tyre on the GT250 and once the tyre was off noticed that rim and nipples were quite corroded. Normally I would just wire brush and spray on some zinc rich paint but this looks quite bad...

Anyhow figured I might try and waste some more of my time rebuilding the front with an alloy rim (cos they look cooler obvs)..

Two cheap options found .. 2nd hand MZ (approx 30 quid) or new (assumed Chinese) 45 quid.

Will also need 36 new spokes approx 180 mm - any good sources other than ebay?

Cheers all.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 16 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old MZ alloy rims (off the 2-strokes) are superb quality items. One place they didn't cheap-out. They never seem to corrode either. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 16:10 - 16 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Old MZ alloy rims (off the 2-strokes) are superb quality items. One place they didn't cheap-out. They never seem to corrode either. Thumbs Up

https://www.central-wheel.co.uk/


Yeahs that's what I figured.. If its good enough for the Stasi.. Wink
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 16 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Zappau factory made top quality alloy componants, even if their machining tolerances occasionally left someting to be desired. Even the most neglected MZs don't go furry, despite the engine and rims being bare alloy.
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PostPosted: 02:09 - 17 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my stainless steel spokes for the DT from the Devon Rim company. They seemed pretty sharp.

<addendum> I would say you could have a lend of my wheel truing stand but maybe now's not the time Sad
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PostPosted: 02:55 - 17 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

True them in the bike. Even if they land up on the piss, they'll be true for the bike they're going in. You can usually find a way of attaching a DGI to the swingarm.fork leg. Or just wrap a cable tie round, cut the end square and eyeball it off the end of that (surprisingly effective).
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 17 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of a hi-Jack, sorry Embarassed .

I’ve had a scan on teh net but can’t find much.

Does anyone have any suggestions for after market (lighter) alloy wheels .
All the sites I have looked at want nearly a grand+ for set of wheels Shocked .
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 17 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:


Does anyone have any suggestions for after market (lighter) alloy wheels .
All the sites I have looked at want nearly a grand+ for set of wheels Shocked .


Drill some holes in the ones you've got Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 17 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
A bit of a hi-Jack, sorry Embarassed .

I’ve had a scan on teh net but can’t find much.

Does anyone have any suggestions for after market (lighter) alloy wheels .
All the sites I have looked at want nearly a grand+ for set of wheels Shocked .


Find some off another bike and make them fit?
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 17 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
pepperami wrote:


Does anyone have any suggestions for after market (lighter) alloy wheels .
All the sites I have looked at want nearly a grand+ for set of wheels Shocked .


Drill some holes in the ones you've got Thumbs Up


Are you fugging mad Shocked !!, you’re suggesting that Pepperami is let loose with a drill to attack his bike wheels...?
Anyway I’m not allowed anything sharp Wink
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 05 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
The Zappau factory made top quality alloy componants, even if their machining tolerances occasionally left someting to be desired. Even the most neglected MZs don't go furry, despite the engine and rims being bare alloy.


Ok so MZ s/h rim arrived and I checked it for flatness against a sheet of glass and it rocks by 3mm so not that flat. Will it true up? I can press it flat on a table.
Seller will take it back so not that keen to chase a lost cause.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 05 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
The Zappau factory made top quality alloy componants, even if their machining tolerances occasionally left someting to be desired. Even the most neglected MZs don't go furry, despite the engine and rims being bare alloy.


Ok so MZ s/h rim arrived and I checked it for flatness against a sheet of glass and it rocks by 3mm so not that flat. Will it true up? I can press it flat on a table.
Seller will take it back so not that keen to chase a lost cause.


You true it by adjusting the spokes, how true it is with no spokes is irrelevant.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 05 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

My honda H100 manual (just because it was handy and also has spoked wheels) quotes a maximum runout of 2mm so it's probably within tolerance for an MZ already.

That's with the wheel laced up mind. Unlaced rims are just bendy hoops of metal until they are brought under tension. If I laced a wheel and STARTED at 3mm runout before trueing, I'd be delighted.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 05 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks both - that's helpful.. Done some push-bike wheels in the past but they are pretty flimsy in comparision.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 06 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
True them in the bike...


But with a truing stand you can sit in your front room with a nice cup of tea and do it... waiting for the inevitable reply Smile
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