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PostPosted: 14:00 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: CBF125 making weird noise? Reply with quote

Any one has any idea why my cbf125 could be making this weird sound??
here's a video I've made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2XTZX2UGw
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit hard to tell where the sound is coming from Thinking

Cam chain tensioner?
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a diesel engine Shocked
Any oil in the engine?
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Re: CBF125 making weird noise? Reply with quote

Fordahord wrote:
Any one has any idea why my cbf125 could be making this weird sound??
here's a video I've made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2XTZX2UGw

If you stuff up the end of the silencer with a crumpled piece of rag or something, you will be able to hear the noise better. you will also be able to track down whatever is whirring by using a listening stick, AKA "engine stethescope". A long screwdriver or a long piece of kindling/wooden spoon would do.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
Sounds like a diesel engine Shocked
Any oil in the engine?


It's at perfect level now, but what I should have mentioned before is I was going uphill 50mph and my engine lost power, I stopped and checked if everything is good but it never shut down or anything. After draining old oil, I realised I only had 100ml. I've been riding around like this, it still has power but just this annoying sound.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's an engine on eBay for £218 including postage.... or £180 if you pick it up from Falmouth.

I suspect that running on 100ml of oil (really?) will have k-nackered possibly the bore/piston/rings/mains/something else.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
There's an engine on eBay for £218 including postage.... or £180 if you pick it up from Falmouth.

I suspect that running on 100ml of oil (really?) will have k-nackered possibly the bore/piston/rings/mains/something else.


I mean, this one is still working.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fordahord wrote:
I mean, this one is still working.

Did it really have only 100ml of oil in it?
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice if we could have one thread about a CBF or CBR 125 that doesn't start with a terminal knock because someone ran it out of oil.

I'm surprised there are any cheap engines left. Every bike out there must be onto its 3rd engine by now.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
It would be nice if we could have one thread about a CBF or CBR 125 that doesn't start with a terminal knock because someone ran it out of oil.

I'm surprised there are any cheap engines left. Every bike out there must be onto its 3rd engine by now.

15 watchers of the abovementioned engine....!
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Fordahord wrote:
I mean, this one is still working.

Did it really have only 100ml of oil in it?


well, this is how much it had after it's been drained out. This is a 1L bottle.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the post at: 20:16 - 09 Jun 2020 I think, but...

How far have you ridden since the problem started?

Did you change the oil filter too when you put new oil in?

I'm assuming you aren't trolling, by the way.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Back to the post at: 20:16 - 09 Jun 2020 I think, but...

How far have you ridden since the problem started?

Did you change the oil filter too when you put new oil in?

I'm assuming you aren't trolling, by the way.


It started sounding like that when it was low on oil and I was already near my house so like 2 mins later I just left it at home. Few days later refilled with some motul 7100 full synt 10w 30 oil and it sound good at idle. When I add gas it starts making that noise. My friend got a duke 125 recently so obv I went to ride with him, bike still does 50-60mph+ but just sounds weird.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Back to the post at: 20:16 - 09 Jun 2020 I think, but...

How far have you ridden since the problem started?

Did you change the oil filter too when you put new oil in?

I'm assuming you aren't trolling, by the way.


no, I didn't change the oil filter when changing oil. I just drained out the old one and put new oil and left the engine running for a few mins.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Back to the post at: 20:16 - 09 Jun 2020 I think, but...

How far have you ridden since the problem started?

Did you change the oil filter too when you put new oil in?

I'm assuming you aren't trolling, by the way.
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Here's a video after I made that oil change, it sounds like this on idle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVifqE44pk&feature=youtu.be
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm not qualified like these guys are, but I don't think you should be riding that bike until you've solved the problem. You never know if you might be causing more damage, or if it might suddenly seize or some important component catastrophically fail, breaking other things on its way. What have you inspected and checked? Did you do the stethoscope thing and find out where the noise is coming from? What did the oil look like in the drain pan? Bits of metal in it? Can you drop the oil filter, cut it open and look at that for signs of debris? Have you checked the timing? Compression reading? From what you're saying and the account you've given, it was starved of oil and now the engine is toast. And it sounds like rod knock, to my inexpert ear. In any case, you need to figure it out before you ride it again.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
Yeah, I'm not qualified like these guys are, but I don't think you should be riding that bike until you've solved the problem. You never know if you might be causing more damage, or if it might suddenly seize or some important component catastrophically fail, breaking other things on its way. What have you inspected and checked? Did you do the stethoscope thing and find out where the noise is coming from? What did the oil look like in the drain pan? Bits of metal in it? Can you drop the oil filter, cut it open and look at that for signs of debris? Have you checked the timing? Compression reading? From what you're saying and the account you've given, it was starved of oil and now the engine is toast. And it sounds like rod knock, to my inexpert ear. In any case, you need to figure it out before you ride it again.


the oil looked good, didn't find any bits of metal in it. if it's going to be an expensive fix then I might as well continue to ride it. The cbf125 doesn't have an oil filter, it has an internal oil strainer which I didn't not take apart. The engine doesn't seem like it's toast because it has power, but it's just that noise. And no I haven't checked the timing and compression.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
Yeah, I'm not qualified like these guys are, but I don't think you should be riding that bike until you've solved the problem. You never know if you might be causing more damage, or if it might suddenly seize or some important component catastrophically fail, breaking other things on its way. What have you inspected and checked? Did you do the stethoscope thing and find out where the noise is coming from? What did the oil look like in the drain pan? Bits of metal in it? Can you drop the oil filter, cut it open and look at that for signs of debris? Have you checked the timing? Compression reading? From what you're saying and the account you've given, it was starved of oil and now the engine is toast. And it sounds like rod knock, to my inexpert ear. In any case, you need to figure it out before you ride it again.


the oil looked good, didn't find any bits of metal in it. if it's going to be an expensive fix then I might as well continue to ride it. The cbf125 doesn't have an oil filter, it has an internal oil strainer which I didn't not take apart. The engine doesn't seem like it's toast because it has power, but it's just that noise. And no I haven't checked the timing and compression.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
Yeah, I'm not qualified like these guys are, but I don't think you should be riding that bike until you've solved the problem. You never know if you might be causing more damage, or if it might suddenly seize or some important component catastrophically fail, breaking other things on its way. What have you inspected and checked? Did you do the stethoscope thing and find out where the noise is coming from? What did the oil look like in the drain pan? Bits of metal in it? Can you drop the oil filter, cut it open and look at that for signs of debris? Have you checked the timing? Compression reading? From what you're saying and the account you've given, it was starved of oil and now the engine is toast. And it sounds like rod knock, to my inexpert ear. In any case, you need to figure it out before you ride it again.


the oil looked good, didn't find any bits of metal in it. if it's going to be an expensive fix then I might as well continue to ride it. The cbf125 doesn't have an oil filter, it has an internal oil strainer which I didn't not take apart. The engine doesn't seem like it's toast because it has power, but it's just that noise. And no I haven't checked the timing and compression.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 09 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
Yeah, I'm not qualified like these guys are, but I don't think you should be riding that bike until you've solved the problem. You never know if you might be causing more damage, or if it might suddenly seize or some important component catastrophically fail, breaking other things on its way. What have you inspected and checked? Did you do the stethoscope thing and find out where the noise is coming from? What did the oil look like in the drain pan? Bits of metal in it? Can you drop the oil filter, cut it open and look at that for signs of debris? Have you checked the timing? Compression reading? From what you're saying and the account you've given, it was starved of oil and now the engine is toast. And it sounds like rod knock, to my inexpert ear. In any case, you need to figure it out before you ride it again.


the oil looked good, didn't find any bits of metal in it. if it's going to be an expensive fix then I might as well continue to ride it. The cbf125 doesn't have an oil filter, it has an internal oil strainer which I didn't not take apart. The engine doesn't seem like it's toast because it has power, but it's just that noise. And no I haven't checked the timing and compression.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 10 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have knackered the bottom end from running it out of oil, then it will get louder over the next 100 miles or so until it is unmistakably a bottom end knock. At the point you might as well change the engine, because it will cost twice as much in parts and outsourced services to fix it.

If it doesn't get louder, keep riding it.

When it gets really loud, stop riding it. Putting a conrod through the engine case will ruin your day and get oil on your shoes.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 10 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
If you have knackered the bottom end from running it out of oil, then it will get louder over the next 100 miles or so until it is unmistakably a bottom end knock. At the point you might as well change the engine, because it will cost twice as much in parts and outsourced services to fix it.

If it doesn't get louder, keep riding it.

When it gets really loud, stop riding it. Putting a conrod through the engine case will ruin your day and get oil on your shoes.


I'm not really sure where the noise is coming from so I'll adjust the tappets next week. It might be them but I've got no clue to be honest Neutral
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 10 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It had been low on oil for a considerable time because it wouldn't have ended up with 100ml of oil overnight. Your bottom end is going to be fucked and probably most of the rest of the engine will have suffered severe wear.

I'm surprised it's even running.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 10 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fordahord wrote:
The cbf125 doesn't have an oil filter, it has an internal oil strainer which I didn't not take apart.


Don't under any circumstances ignore this. It's easy to clean and at most will require a new gasket on the clutch side.

If it blocks up your engine will be starved of oil (even more than it clearlyu already has been) and will be even more knackered.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 10 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Fordahord wrote:
The cbf125 doesn't have an oil filter, it has an internal oil strainer which I didn't not take apart.


Don't under any circumstances ignore this. It's easy to clean and at most will require a new gasket on the clutch side.

If it blocks up your engine will be starved of oil (even more than it clearlyu already has been) and will be even more knackered.


I've been listening to a lot of different engine problems on yt, so I'll adjust my valve clearances. I guess I'm not good at figuring out which bit the sound is coming from.
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