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PostPosted: 16:31 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: any kawasaki zx9r riders here? Reply with quote

recently, i spoke to someone in the real world, who has owned a zx9r for the last 10 years.
im left thinking that if he has held on to the bike for that long it must be pretty darn good.

anyone have any experience of this model? im wondering if they are a good choice in their price range? they seem to be around the £1800-2500, judging by a quick look on the bay.

i remember when the zxr600 came out it wasnt very popular, but i know nothing about the 900 other than they seem to be bargain basement prices.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's got to be an E model or newer... but I hear they are very good indeed from then onwards. The prices you mention sound very high.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
It's got to be an E model or newer... but I hear they are very good indeed from then onwards. The prices you mention sound very high.


thanks for the tip Thumbs Up
they were mainly dealer prices on the bay.
another potential on the new bike list then.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: any kawasaki zx9r riders here? Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
i remember when the zxr600 came out it wasnt very popular,

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PostPosted: 19:46 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: any kawasaki zx9r riders here? Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
to v or not to v wrote:
i remember when the zxr600 came out it wasnt very popular,

Shocked


maybe im remembering wrong,but round here in the 90's it seemed to be cbr and zzr 600s ?
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: any kawasaki zx9r riders here? Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
maybe im remembering wrong,but round here in the 90's it seemed to be cbr and zzr 600s ?

I was sort of joking because I’ve had my ZX6R for 20 years. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a zx9r B model fecking heavy but comfortable regret selling it but I don't want another bike with carbs Sad
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

almostthere wrote:
it but I don't want another bike with carbs Sad


Why? I’m the opposite, I’d never have a fuel injected bike.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 29 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: any kawasaki zx9r riders here? Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
to v or not to v wrote:
maybe im remembering wrong,but round here in the 90's it seemed to be cbr and zzr 600s ?

I was sort of joking because I’ve had my ZX6R for 20 years. Very Happy


you must be very easily pleased Razz

thats actually quite impressive though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:39 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ZX9R was a beast. 100cc less than the 98 R1, yet the same top speed and faster over to 60 and over the 1/4 mile. Got to love Kawasaki engines.

What's not to love is crap fuel pump. It's a carbed bike with mechanical pump. It also has a camshaft sensor. Possibly they were going to add FI if production continued in the 2000s. The cam shaft sensor is a source of failure and the bike won't start with out it. I would probably never go back to a carbed bike.

I changed from a ZXR750. The handelling of the ZXR750 was better, and it was more focued bike. I did a 3,000 mile plus on it, and two 3,000 mile plus tours on the ZX9. I never grew to love it for some reason. It just wasn't as tight. The riding position was more of being trapped inside the bike.

Only the F models looked good. I had an E. Complete with super flaky paint rims.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MCeRqP_lfqf5B_3j6OiNJnETx4XrV4eZH3jMpBBlYGLP_qeFlwBE9Wl8umc-8sSeY0ozTcKFbSOKYHOViuF413jls71_WM-GIfwsRBdG0Xwuo2khhnozD5gETyZAHnqGaQkK7W4xTHv0xZqQ3yFihXnSrNj04p4i3Vk-Yuuf9eAFQ8-4AXFF4qKCXiNUoVCNYR4lH_4bMVBMjendgM1h7NNK4bBGNf8cbI3gQqvqeK_Hwq2H4uZfksj4JxNIGMz6sLu2H5oDZ91jmYAredsIqiRRzQgR4VLY24hD21_q2SXqRWzZ0YxfI5IP8AxT6tO9YEYAzisR62-o_YaL9c8W1StMZxnDND2J5v_18i_mSSdLgIrc7HvZKIg-KvnYCvB9vvnMUPkfCFRnRlyh-X07rxC1E_O5KIVreFBwAzEpuTwDIPaoUjNwObl2BP6RulWT-WLpVH3JaiQLPzHn0u2EdIVckUkbRemhbtjqo-908KE_lOaywQZO076V4xujgVqmD9jGTbzmrAt4BSw_HutLI7jJaEb0QZW0-wjlpp1Q4yotTA4HlcbOrtGmR6AL6V4oYM8wc2GddCy4dY9F0xyHgDsegsEJ64hqjv0Idm65eGy0uFh5MZC5p0nK3I9kBTRWxdE1FiGcBOalaN41kcmd_-oNTNZudmfwSy7f4h3czzF8NvIKJkS57runRC8BDQ=w800-no?authuser=0
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PostPosted: 05:49 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

cons -

the c and c2 sold the most so spares are most plentiful for them - the E is the best looking though (arguably best styling of golden era kwakka after zx7r p2) - as noted, the b is too heavy and tank looks daft

6 pot tokicos are wooden and lack stopping power unless well-maintained, and even then...(but nissin 4 pots from bandits and gxsrs bolt straight on - also same calliper as those on triumph sprints iirc - w/ HEL lines this improves things)

headstock bearings are consumables (20k sometimes as low as 16k!)

wheel finish is v. thin - paint sticks like fuck to the dimpled spokes but flakes off the smooth rims at slightest provocation



pros -

soft - for a sporty bike the 9 is well on the tourer side (except no bungee points, centre stand or anything sensible like that) - it's not focused - clip ons above yoke, big saddle, generous screen, suspension that softens well, etc., power is soft / linear for litre bike

great for commuting cos handles town work really well - great at trickling, filtering etc. plus good away from lights

comfy - seat to peg is okay, clip ons high, not sure about pillion comfort tho

engine is mega - fuelling is lovely, pulls well pretty much everywhere, no annoying flat spots, easy good enough for 100k plus (never heard of aforementioned fuel pump weakness nor CSS issues - very interesting, as am occasionally having failure to start issues - cured by turning key back to off, then trying again - cures it but could be CSS? cos really will NOT start w/out resetting ignition)

revs to 12k with gusto, easy hits 140, but equally happy to tour for long days

great bikes but long in tooth - private sale should bag one for under 2k with less than 20k on clock - Cs are smoothest, Es buzzier but look better
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I planned on buying one a few years ago but ended up with a GSXR 1000. If cheap speed is the desire the early 2000's litre bikes can be had for not lot more than a (similar age) 9r.
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the in-depth replies fellas Thumbs Up
just need to sit on one to see if my midget legs are long enough.
it seems to be a bit heavy for tiptoeing.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
I planned on buying one a few years ago but ended up with a GSXR 1000. If cheap speed is the desire the early 2000's litre bikes can be had for not lot more than a (similar age) 9r.


Second this.

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PostPosted: 10:20 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

they're not a tall bike and they have a cinched waistline (even though the saddle is quite wide at its broadest point) - and they're well balanced, by which i mean they're easy to ride very slowly, so you shouldn't have to dab much at all

also, don't be put off by stories of dodgy gear boxes - see here:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=329634

there are links itt to a dedicated forum which is still well-supported with very good info and users
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mylarballoonsfan wrote:
almostthere wrote:
it but I don't want another bike with carbs Sad


Why? I’m the opposite, I’d never have a fuel injected bike.


I lied I've just bought a 95 trident sprint Laughing
just got sick of cleaning shit out of the 9r's carbs
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 30 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
I planned on buying one a few years ago but ended up with a GSXR 1000. If cheap speed is the desire the early 2000's litre bikes can be had for not lot more than a (similar age) 9r.


thats the problem, theres just so much to choose from.
cheap does appeal to the Scottish side of my heritage though Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 31 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a B model, It was big, fast and fun.

Sadly the head gasket went twice on it which was enough for me to swap it for a TLR.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 31 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: any kawasaki zx9r riders here? Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
maybe im remembering wrong,but round here in the 90's it seemed to be cbr and zzr 600s ?

I’ve been thinking about this. The CBR600 always dominated the sports 600 market but the ZX6R G-model (‘98-‘99) did well, I think. At that time the 600s were the flagships and they had a major reissue every two years. Unfortunately Kawasaki did a relatively minor update (636 engine, new front fairing) until 2003 at a time when the other manufacturers were making smaller, racier bikes. Nothing wrong with the Kawasaki G/J models, in fact they’re a brilliant bike (which is why I still have my ‘99 G2) but they got left behind, perhaps. I see more G/J models on the road now than those those that replaced it. Meanwhile, the ZZR600, which seemed to occupy an odd sector of the market at that time, remarkably enjoyed a 17 year manufacturing period with just one major update.

[quote=“wr6133”] If cheap speed is the desire the early 2000's litre bikes can be had for not lot more than a (similar age) 9r[/quote]

My other bike is a 2003 R1 which again I’ve owned for years and is terrific, although I didn’t get on with the handling at first.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 31 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came within the width of a gnat’s bollock to getting one, but got the 929 instead cos I CBA to deal with carbs. Don’t regret that choice but I don’t think the kawi would have been a bad choice either.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 01 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

A decent all round bike that's not as extreme as the newer models, but I think makes a really nice alternative to something like a Fazer.
Brakes do need regular work and decent pads to be kept "acceptable".
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 01 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had my C2 1998 for 2 years now and absolutely love it.

I wanted an E for the styling buy but my budget would have bought me a shed if I'd gone for that so ended up with my C2.

Before this I had K3 GSXR 1000. Beautiful bike but I can honestly say that I prefer the ride of the ZX9 than the GSXR. Maybe it's because I'm 50 and appreciate that bit more comfort but I'm a nutter for speed and the ZX9 ain't that far behind the GSXR in terms of getting away quiick.

All I've had to do is head bearings and calliper strip front and back. Not a major job but it needs keeping on top of to keep the brakes good.

I think key is, find a clean one. I did and it's stayed that way because I look after it. If you but a shed you'll never bond with it.

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PostPosted: 23:34 - 05 Feb 2021    Post subject: ZX9R's are great bikes. Reply with quote

I've had 5 ZX9r's over the last 25 years and have had all the models. The first bike I bought after passing my test on a 125cc was a ZX9R B1, followed by a C1, E1, and two F models, one of which I still have and have owned for the last 8 years.
They really are the ideal all round bike. They are comfy, great for touring with a tank range of over 180miles to a tank. You can do track days on them and commute and everything in between. They are very cheap to buy , easy to work on, parts are cheap and they are extremely reliable. the induction noise makes a lovely roar and they are still quick even by todays standards.

The B model did have head gasket issues on higher mileage bikes, mine went at 33,000miles and was heavy around 215kg dry, and its handling was not as good as the later models, which saw a weight drop to around 183kg dry, so I would advise you by a C, E or F model.
There were reports of early C models having fragile gearboxes.
E and F models had twin headlights, and are a little more expensive than the C, but are not much better to ride.

F models best feature over the E was a change to the 4 pot Nissin brake calipers, from the earlier E's Tokiko 6 pots. The latter were good brakes but required regular cleaning to keep then working well, so many owners ditched them. The F also had different swingarm, no fairing cage around the clocks and removal of the pillion handles and heavier fly wheel.

There are no real issues with the ZX9 and for the money they are an absolute steal.

I've owned quite a few other bikes including GSXR600,750 and 1000, RSV Aprillia, Zx12R, ZX7R, and I still keep going back to the ZX9. Being in my 50,s I find it just the right balance of sporty speed and comfort.
I currently also have a 2013 CBR1000RR , which it has to be said is a much better performance bike than the ZX9, but if I could only have one bike I'd pick the ZX9 as it can do it all. The Honda is just abit too small for my old achy bones..

I must admit I do have a bias towards this bike, but for the money I still think you can't find a better bike
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 06 Feb 2021    Post subject: Mick Reply with quote

How does it compare to the z1000sx?
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 06 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not ridden the Z1000sx but from what I've read it's more of a sports tourer than the Zx9, weighs abit more, more upright. riding position , has fuel injection and looks more modern but cost alot more than a Zx9R.. Supposed to be a great bike...
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