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Guyi2545
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Can't figure out of this Exhaust is street legal in the UK. Reply with quote

Hello,

I have a Z900 2020 and I am wanting to stick an SC Project titanium full exhaust system (Header Link) with the SC Project S1 end can (End-can Link) but I can't figure out anywhere nor get a response form SC - Project if this full kit is road legal.

The exhaust system is EURO 4 compliant and the endcan is EURO 4 and EURO 5 complaint but I am not sure if there is anything else that would make it illegal AND I do not know if it is too loud to pass an MOT (I am in the UK).

Please tell me someone here knows the answer to these mysterious questions.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's marked "not for road use" or "off road use only" or similar, it'll fail MOT. As long as you can stick a baffle in the end of it, I don't think you'll have an issue as long as it's not "stupid" loud.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
If it's marked "not for road use" or "off road use only" or similar, it'll fail MOT. As long as you can stick a baffle in the end of it, I don't think you'll have an issue as long as it's not "stupid" loud.


the end can comes with a baffle yeah and the headers say for race use, it is designed as a race system but I am not sure that automatically makes it illegal though. It is all very ambiguous lol.

Also I think the above headers are wrong that is for the A2 restricted version mine isn't.

https://shop.sc-project.com/en-IT/Bike_KAWASAKI_Z-900-2020/3836_SCP-K34-FS-Gruppo-completo-4-2-1.htm
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guyi2545 wrote:
xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
If it's marked "not for road use" or "off road use only" or similar, it'll fail MOT. As long as you can stick a baffle in the end of it, I don't think you'll have an issue as long as it's not "stupid" loud.


the end can comes with a baffle yeah and the headers say for race use, it is designed as a race system but I am not sure that automatically makes it illegal though. It is all very ambiguous lol.


It is not ambiguous at all but is can be considered subjective.

Any replacement exhaust must not make more noise than the standard exhaust in good condition, otherwise it must be a MOT fail.

The subjectivity comes from the tester's considered opinion as to whether the noise is or is not more than the standard exhaust would be, since he's unlikely to have a bike with a standard exhaust to hand for comparison.

The truth is that few if any aftermarket exhaust will be as quiet as the original. If they were, people would not buy them.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:

It is not ambiguous at all but is can be considered subjective.

Any replacement exhaust must not make more noise than the standard exhaust in good condition, otherwise it must be a MOT fail.

The subjectivity comes from the tester's considered opinion as to whether the noise is or is not more than the standard exhaust would be, since he's unlikely to have a bike with a standard exhaust to hand for comparison.

The truth is that few if any aftermarket exhaust will be as quiet as the original. If they were, people would not buy them.




I meant more that some of the sales sites are ambiguous as to their products status at being road legal. Smile but also as far as the MOT goes from what I've read there is no specific Db level when it comes to the MOT (but there is for a police check). I did not however know about it being tested against a standard system, seems weird though as how would any aftermarket system ever pass.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "for race use only" needs to be clearly stamped on bike components for MoT testers to take notice. They're not going to Google search the headers and go "Aha!" An end-can/muffler/silencer/whatever might be so marked but not the particular one you've linked.

tl;dr forget the racing bit in this scenario.

The simple description: you have a de-catted or straight thru' exhaust system. As the MoT test doesn't cover emissions on bikes other than noise just do what everyone else: whack the baffle in, get it tested, whip it out before you head to work at 6am Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
The "for race use only" needs to be clearly stamped on bike components for MoT testers to take notice. They're not going to Google search the headers and go "Aha!" An end-can/muffler/silencer/whatever might be so marked but not the particular one you've linked.

tl;dr forget the racing bit in this scenario.

The simple description: you have a de-catted or straight thru' exhaust system. As the MoT test doesn't cover emissions on bikes other than noise just do what everyone else: whack the baffle in, get it tested, whip it out before you head to work at 6am Laughing


Sorry if this is a stupid question but doesn't taking out the baffles effect the perofrmance and possily cause damage over time to the engine? or am I just beign stupid.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 03 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Fuel slip on can on my bike witn no Power Commander... Taking the baffle out will reduce back pressure a little bit, usually it won't cause any damage but on mine I can notice the engine not run a smoothly at low throttle and rpm with it out. A Power Commander will sort that out though. It's unlikely to make it run so lean you damage anything.
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 03 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuel injected bikes tend to run richer not leaner.

Guy: You're unlikely to cause engine damage but you might notice it's nowhere as smooth at low throttle settings. If the extra noise and prospect of 20yrs of constant tinnitus excites you - take the baffle out and don't bother with ear plugs.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 03 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure you will be needing a remap for a full system or expect it to be losing you a bunch of power.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 03 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you just change out the exhaust components and leave the stock airbox nothing dramatic is going to happen. I would imagine it'll run a touch leaner and you might have some more pops and crackles.

It's something I've weighed up for my XSR. Pipes are pretty cheap as they're 99% the same as the MT07. A new can would sound nice as the stock "bread box" cat affair is pretty tame. The airbox mod is dead easy...

But! Minimum £150 to post off the ECU for a reflash Sad TBH I don't need the extra power - might get oooh, +4bhp!!! ffs Rolling Eyes - but tweaking the low end throttle response that's usually bundled into the new program does sound kinda tempting Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 03 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.z900forum.com/index.php/topic,1297.0.html
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