Electric Moped un restricted help please

[Den9112]

Hi, i have just purchased a new electric moped that i will be using for my commute to work aprox 12 mile return journey total 24 miles as i do a split shift..I will alternate this with my car if weather is not suitable ..
I have had a petrol moped in 2008 that i used for a while but found i needed to de restrict it to keep up with traffic and found that it helped as i felt a lot more comfortable ,if i remember correct my insurance only went up slightly as i have a full licence ..The electric moped is a erider model 30 jazz not received yet but when i do i was hoping i may be able to un restrict if i wanted to i have tried to search but can't seem to find to much ,i have found some electric mopeds just need a wire removing to be able to un restrict ...If anyone can advise or help it would be appreciated..Thanks

[Nobby the Bastard]

Choosing to ride a moped when you have a license? Have you always been a masochist?
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[Den9112]

My choice , and for a couple of reasons, one is a get a £395 grant on purchasing a £2200 electric moped ..My commute to work is just 4 x6 mile return journeys as i do split shifts ,i have use of another bike and a car so i will have a few choices, i will also save potentially save over £100 per month just on my commuting fuel costs also my daughter will be getting the bike free of charge as soon as she commits to a few things...I just want a bit of info in un restricting it if it can be done purely for me ..It goes back to restriction as soon as it's in my daughters hands.

[MarJay]

There are legitimate reasons why a 50cc internal combustion moped might need to be restricted. Those reasons are not present for an electric moped.
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[jaffa90]

Looks like more speed = more voltage and wattage.
https://www.ekobikes.co.uk/electric-motorbikes/model-40/

[Mysteriass]

Depends on the controller.

You need to access the settings. Some controllers have an option to make an e-bike UK legal (15mph)... or not. That's more likely the two wires you're talking about so if you get "pulled" you can press the switch on the end of those two wires and make the ebike magically legal again. (Mostly for e-bicycles)

Then there's also sometimes a software restrictor in the controller settings. Some of these controllers are accessed by a (bluetooth?) mobile phone app and others have a built in config LED display and keypad buttons.

I had an ebike for a while. Then one of the 3.7v 18650 batteries in the pack decided to quit or dry joint or something. The charger would sit there floating the thing undervoltage for hours because it couldn't get a full charge in the pack due to that one knackered battery. Put me right off, it's something "they" don't tell you about. (Do you really want to be using metal tools directly on a battery putting out some serious voltage and amperage? There's going to be people killed by these things)

The other thing you have to watch is that they put a thousand pound battery with a one pound chinese BMS (Battery Management System) circuit board. Yeah, that'll end well. If that circuit board dies it can take the battery with it.

Sold the thing. Unless I can build an ebike out of cheap scrap then I can't be bothered with them. I also used to have a scrapper ebike I did my shopping on that was quite fun. It's a lot more fun to have an ebike you don't worry about than it is to have one with a thousand pound battery and thousand pound controller and thousand pound motor. It was 36v so I stuck an extra LA battery on and forced 48v into the controller and motor... thing went about 20mph. Definately a good thing for kids to learn on too.

This was the thing I was planning to buy years ago. It was £600 last time I looked -> https://www.evoscooters.co.uk/evomotion-e-f11-electric-moped-lithium.html

As for fuel costs. Take into account the battery getting tired over the years assuming nothing else goes wrong with it. If that needs replacing then that is the equivalent of a fuel cost. Lots of stuff on petrol bikes you can fix yourself for next to nothing but that battery is expensive blackbox magic you can't do much with. Some ebikes even have a contract where you start paying for your next battery before you've killed the one you've got.

The ultimate solution I see is using compressed hydrogen on combustibles.

[Den9112]

Many thanks for taking time to reply ,i will look in to it ..

[Copycat73]

[Ste]

Which electric moped have you got?

[Den9112]

Hi i have the erider model 30 jazz.
I have asked on the actual erider forum but not had any replies .

[WD Forte]

Just cut the red wire

or was it the blue one?
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[Den9112]

Just cut the red one no luck,tried the Blue one that didn't work.
Ok i am joking but why reply if you don't know because believe me some people may just take your reply seriously..

[WD Forte]

Its your enquiry I find it hard to take seriously
what make you think a 2kw motor is going have any serious power?
My kettle has more power than that.
I see Erider have a 4kw model with a top speed of about 45mph
why not buy that?

For comparison:
An old Honda 50 made about 5Kw
Honda vision 110cc 6.4Kw
Honda SH125 9.2Kw
Honda CBR600 80-90 Kw
and so on.....

Power is power whether it comes from petrol deisel or battery
if you think there's a magic trick to make that wee thing suddenly
more powerful, I reckon your in for disappointment.
There's also the warranty which will vanish if they find you've been
fiddling with it to get 'moar powah'

You could fit a say a 5 kw motor and do all the changes to the battery and control electronics to cope with it but it sounds as if you
don't really understand the technical principles involved

Then there's the power to weight ratio
If youre 5'5" and 7 stone it may be quite nippy
If youre 6'2" and 16 stone it will struggle

Range is also related to power, the more/faster you use it, the less range
you'll have unless you've found a way to change the laws of physics.
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[Den9112]

What a condescending and rude reply,it makes no difference if you cannot take my question seriously ,if you cannot help then don't reply ..My question is can you un restrict the model of moped i have asked for nothing else so please go and patronise somebody else as i am quite aware of the physic's, i don't want loads of power but a unrestricted moped at 32 mph gives you a little more confidence in keeping with the flow of traffic than a restricted one at 28mph ...

[jaffa90]

[Den9112]

I always thought these types of forums are here to help new members with any questions they may have and not for patronising and trying to belittle them, I asked a question as the whether the model of bike i posted could be unrestricted that's it nothing else..

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[Den9112]

[A100man]

[Den9112]

And you come across a bully with your passive aggressive reply ,must be full of old dinosaurs and keyboard warriors. Anyway i will seek out a more friendly forum ..

[Nobby the Bastard]

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[MaybeGuy]

Fuck off Den. I'm sure there's another forum somewhere that will tell you what you want to hear so you can ignore the real advice you've been given.
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