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 Posted: 18:22 - 09 Apr 2005 Post subject: Summer Bikers? |
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Just been for a blat on the bike, and it's reached that time of year. Now don't get me wrong - I would never tell someone what to wear whilst riding a bike but it still surprises me when I see people out (and it's normally on sports bikes, it has to be said) wearing clothing that offers no protection. I've just seen a bloke on a GSXR600 wearing jeans (not so bad), trainers, t-shirt and a helmet. No jacket, no gloves. Worst once I ever saw was a BMW rider on the M40 wearing just a helmet, shorts and flipflops!
We've all ridden push bikes and I guess most of us have falled off those. I battered myself to bits when I was at school on them, and I knocked myself out once by going over the handlebars. You only have to fall off a push bike at 10-15mph and you'll carve up your legs, arms, hands etc. So, you can at least expect the same on a motorbike... at 10-15mph. But what about 30mph... or 50mph or 80mph etc.
Like I said, if people want to ride bikes at 90mph in a t-shirt then I can't do anything to stop them, and I wouldn't want to. The last thing we need is more legislation, but it does strike me as somewhat mad that people do it. Does it stop hurting if you're hot? Does it make you bounce off the ground?  |
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I've seen it too, and last year when I was down the coast, pillion on the back with just a helmet & bikini on  |
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TBH today i have been guilty of it, was doing some work on the bike,went out to warm her up, without my trousers and boots. round town wasn't to bad but then at 70 on country lanes i did sunddenly realisr what i was doing! came back very cautiously!
Think that the law should stay the way that is as so much crap would be involved with clothing and legislation, should be upto the rider, but when someone comes off in no protections there families think that biking even more dangerous, cause of the injuries that there love one has due to not wearing the proper gear!
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 Posted: 22:02 - 09 Apr 2005 Post subject: |
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The summer riders that concern me more are the ones like those I encountered last weekend. The were to a man wearing full race leathers and all the latest kit.
They were also riding like tw@s. I was giving it big beans through the twisties on my supermoto, now when I am on a mission, I use the full road and that means offsiding (riding in the right hand lane) into left handers to the full extent of the visibility on the road.
When someone passes me on the outside just after I have turned in because there is a blind crest coming up, believe me that they cannot possibly have any idea if there is something coming. My bike sits a LOT higher than a sports bike and if I can't see, banzai-billy certainly can't.
I don't care what sort of protective gear you are wearing. If you have a head-on at a combined 150mph, you are dead. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I encountered some like that last weekend as I was heading into wrexham, really twisty road and I was stuck behind a bus, so I sat behind it waiting for a chance to overtake.
Sure enough a litlle straight popped up and I went for it, as I'm half way past it suddenly I get over taken by an 04 R1, on its back wheel literally cm's away from me. If he had messed up I would've had nowhere to go apart from whack on the brakes even though I knew I had a few more litre bikes right behind me.
He could've waited half a second and passed me safely but because he has the latest litre bike hes obviously way too good to be sitting behind me.
Class A prick I tell thee. |
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 Posted: 22:50 - 09 Apr 2005 Post subject: |
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| stinkwheel wrote: | I don't care what sort of protective gear you are wearing. If you have a head-on at a combined 150mph, you are dead. |
Absolutely. Your gear's there to help protect you if you fall off, not act as in invincibility hack!
| RickHolt wrote: | I always wear full kit. I can see why other people wouldn't though. Next time you're wearing all your gear, think about how much protection it actually offers on an average road. On a track, yea, leathers will let you slide almost uninjured. On the road, they won't help as you bounce of curbs, lamp posts, cars etc. The kit will hold the pieces together after an accident, but its only really useful for avoiding abrasive injuries. |
Depends how you come off. I know someone who binned his CBR whilst wearing a full set of Alpinestars leathers. He walked away with no injuries other than the usual aches and pains, and a nice set of bruising around where the armour sat across his shoulders and elbows. He reckons that without the armour he'd have broken bones. That's not to say that it would have helped him if he'd slid into a lamp post, but you only have to look at people taking massive impacts from highsiding (and getting up) to see that armour helps. As with my above comment though, it doesn't turn you into Captain Scarlett! |
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I still think my armor saved my knees in my accident last year. I'm not saying the stuff is useless, just not always as life saving as people seem to make out. Has there been much research to compare accidents with and without armor? I've always wanted to know what would have happened if I was only wearing jeans.
Staying on the bike is the best bet It's all a question of risk vs reward. For new bikers the risk is too high to not wear full kit really. Whilst for an experienced biker maybe the risk isn't too bad compared to the "wind through your hair" reward. |
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I do have the opinion that Summer riders do spoil the fun for the rest of the fun for other bikers just because they jump from there cars into their bikes and leave all sense at home and endanger other motorist's lives.
So the chances of me beening on the other end of these summer riders is minimal so I am not really considering it that much however it does increase statistics which changes laws which affects biking. Maybe that is an extreme view and stating that someone's life is just a statistic but I want to guard my hobby and transport that makes a smile on my face all year round with a cattle prod and a big dog  |
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that would be a consideration
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I've never ridden any more than about 3 miles from home without my jacket and gloves at least. But as my dad says it doesn't take a long road to fall off. ____________________ Northern Irish? www.nibikers.com |
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i came off the bac of a ped wen i was 15 , i no i shoukdnt of been on it but i was young and mindless , i was driving my mate around he was 6ft 4 a tall 15/16 year old , driving fine untill he say let me take you on back so he does , first round about he thinks hes rossi and leans it right over and slides it luckerly he slid it just before the roundabout , i came off and bashed my head luckery we was both wearing helmets and i was wearing bike gloves and his my left nea on ground wich made to holes , they are now scars but now i get a pain in my nea now and then , but i always wear my protectives cos i would want that to happern at high speed
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 321 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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