Rotten Frame

[blurredman]

I have bike with a frame that is rotten, quite unsafe.

I bought an identical, 2nd hand (but apparently never registered in the UK) frame.

I would obviously like to keep my registration number and historic classification and noticed a 'change vin no' section in the v5.

Am I obviously wrong in thinking I can just put the replacement frame's VIN in that spot and send the paper off and life would be so easy?



I'd rather just replace the single item in one go, as opposed to chopping bits and pieces of a good frame and welding the parts onto the original VIN item. Time consuming and quite a waste of the good frame - but is it the only real legal option just for the sake of keeping the same headstock number?
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 39k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 50k.

[stinkwheel]

I believe that is the only legal option.

There are a variety of illegal but not morally wrong options. For example, I bet you can use an electric drill, teep set and a pop rivetter.

https://www.themzshop.co.uk/store/es175-250-2/frame-swing-arm/replica-vin-plate-for-es250-2/

https://plaque-de-cadre.fr/en/suzuki/100-suzuki-data-plate-n2.html
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[blurredman]

The bike in question doesn't have a tag- just numbers on the headstock.
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 39k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 50k.

[stinkwheel]

[WD Forte]

Rotted frame?
CX ?

Some bloke who's name I don't recall had a similar dilemma.
This person had two CX frames the original registered one was rotted to hell the other in very good condition

As he owned both frames and they weren't not nicked nor nuffin
he creatively cloned the good for the bad and nary a word was said.

The trick as I recall was not to make them look fresh but to distress them like many antique dealers have done to furniture.
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[blurredman]

Yes. CX.

I understand the subtext- but has anyone actually tried it the paper way? Or am I right in thinking the paperwork is just a red herring to hell?
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 39k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 50k.

[WD Forte]

As I recall the paperwork was a pain in the arse back then and Q plates were mentioned but it may have changed since.

the Honda owners club or VJMCC may have some tips on this subject
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[MCN]

[WD Forte]

Honda CX circa 1980
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[stinkwheel]

One thing is nobody official will ever be looking at the VIN again if it's registered as a historic vehicle unless you get pulled by a particularly nosy copper on a traffic stop. I've been stopped for a lot of things over the years and that's something they never checked.

So if you swapped out the frame, it's highly unlikely to ever become an issue unless you want to sell it.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[CorriganJ]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[CorriganJ]

[A100man]

Agree with Stinkwheel..

If the French site link can produce one of these..

https://www.cx500forum.com/attachments/186ec302-fc7b-463a-81f3-f31ed9d158c9-jpg.31521/

Then fill (e.g. with QuikSteel)and grind/sand back the old one and fit this on top.

OR

Fill sand the old/unwanted one VIN and stamp the wanted one alongside
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Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600

[WD Forte]

That pic shows the plate on the RH rear frame not the headstock
UK CX's came with both and the numbers would match of course
but the stamped headstock number alone was often referred to as the plates would often go missing/get damaged or knocked off.
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[slowasyoulike]

[A100man]

[sickpup]