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PostPosted: 11:15 - 08 Jun 2024    Post subject: Chain Cleaning - White Spirit VS Parafin Reply with quote

Ok, So this must have been asked many times over but I want to know how many use what products. I use Parfafin as it's cheap and recommended and told it works.
What do you use and why?
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 08 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott Oiler and a PD Oiler because fuck manually cleaning and lubricating chains. Laughing

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Before I discovered the pleasures of automatic lubrication I used diesel to clean them. I had a diesel car and always had a 10l can of the stuff handy.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 08 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that method clean the chain as well? Thanks Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 08 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use gear oil on an O-ring chain, sparingly and infrequently. Excellent chain life, cheap, less messy and never have to clean the chain. No lump of wax and stones behind the sprocket cover either.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 08 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingcbf wrote:
Does that method clean the chain as well? Thanks Thumbs Up


Yes. They put a drop of oil every minute onto the chain and that both lubricates and cleans. They're really good for chain life as well.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 08 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have thought that white spirit might attack the o rings in the chain? I'd guess that paraffin is better?
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 11 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Use gear oil on an O-ring chain, sparingly and infrequently. Excellent chain life, cheap, less messy and never have to clean the chain. No lump of wax and stones behind the sprocket cover either.


That's exactly what I've done for years. Cheap, easy and very effective.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 11 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I'd have thought that white spirit might attack the o rings in the chain? I'd guess that paraffin is better?


I've seen paraffin attack O Ring seals. I've no idea what those seals were made of but I'd keep it well away from the chain just in case.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 11 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the orings self lubricating? What material are they?

I always figured oiling a chain is futlie other than stopping the chain from surface rusting. Where there is movable parts on the chain would rub the chain dry of any lubricants.

Now if the chain and assembly were in an oil tight housing I could see the point.

Anyway I tend to just replace the chain when it gets to fucked up due to neglect.
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 12 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done some research on the internet and people do use PArafin to clean the motorcycle chain. Perhaps it's the old way of cleaning a chain. Only recently found out about white spirit.
So I take it you don't clean the chain just lube it and that's it?
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 12 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a o-ring chain you are primarily oiling the interface between chain and sprockets. Cleaning chains a waste of time when you could just stick an auto-oiler on it.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 12 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me try and be a little more clear.
I lube the chain with gear oil every 200 miles
But after 1000 miles, I will clean the chain with Parafin, Brush off then hose down with water to clear all the Parafin and muck. Wait for the water to dry before applying gear oil.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 12 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always just used paraffin to clean using a chain brush and then a rag to dry it off. Then a small amount of gear oil on a toothbrush to oil it. Never tried white spirit but I think it's more expensive than paraffin and I've always got some around to run my heater Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 12 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJP say's that Parafin attacks the O Rings Sad
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 13 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just lubed the motorcycle chains with this...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczORNmJvX3W6by4_JyYW8G83eQLdaetYiYIPz7T6Hk4UZF9Miej5QWwSUn8tfsShI8e2t8ll_Ez4hbOqjOCwI83X_meyBZ4wcPoJMW1OkPoMlVCtJtknQpPo7tY7Rp_owJOEwvZ6RiPFbKl23ERhomOg=w1004-h457-s-no-gm-no

Appears to be slighly thicker than my previous 80W-90
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 13 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't clean them.

I generally go for bikes that are shaft or belt drive, because chains are messy. Chains gets oiled occasionally with a spray can. When they're worn out, they get replaced. My old 250 runs a plain chain that costs £20, not worth doing any more than the most basic maintenance.

The surprising thing for me is that I've seen this same thing come up for the 20 years that I've been riding. A scottoiler is still the recommended solution, but they're still a bit fiddly to set up and keep behaving. At least belts have come on a long way in that time.
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 14 Jul 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft is defo the way but I've not seen any shaft bikes that can do over 80MPG
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 04 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask the chain manufacturer.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 04 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFS not again....
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 04 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy wrote:
Ask the chain manufacturer.

They’ll just recommend their own brand aerosol of precious unicorn’s tears.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 04 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingcbf wrote:
Shaft is defo the way but I've not seen any shaft bikes that can do over 80MPG


I tend to not look at the MPG, but i get around 50 on a BMW R1200.. I ride fairly granny like though. It is however miles ahead of the underpowered motors you have, which is likely why a shaft isn't present, they aren't worth the development on such low powered cheaper vehicles.

I'd be less concerned about that factor. Chains are agg, messy and when they do snap, can take a chunk of engine or leg as a reminder.
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PostPosted: 02:52 - 05 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everytime you fill up in the course of a year, the difference 30MPG's extra can make can add up but I wonder by how much? Then considering the greasing and maintence of chains add up. And then the replacement. I guess if you factor those things in, one can then make up his mind if the shaft drive would be a better option. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 05 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not one who calculates fuel as a cost, its smiles per mile, not miles per gallon.

If I cared about fuel and cost, I'd have a moped or a 125. But this is off topic. I don't care about chains, add a lube option, forget about it.
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