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FF68
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 12 Jun 2025    Post subject: Rachel Reeves plans to... Reply with quote
...Give 39billion towards social housing in this country. Have a guess who all those houses/homes will be given to as it certainly won't be the British and/or UK Citizens !
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 12 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hope they dont build too many. My house value might go down!
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 12 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hope they dont build too many. My house value might go down!


1.5 million new homes to be built as a minimum so far but I've got no idea where they will actually be. Seems like they will be very nice places to live though as the Govt are taking over the countryside and rural areas. Existing/Current residents there won't be too happy when it starts happening...
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 12 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
What will actually happen: £££ is allocated for housing "on paper", the houses won't get built, money gets quietly "returned" to the Exchequer (not that it really existed in the first place.)

It's one thing to announce a desire to build houses but if there isn't any capacity to build how is it going to get done?
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 12 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
destroying the countryside one housing estate at a time whilst screwing us out of every penny they can grab "to save the planet". Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 12 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
to v or not to v wrote:
destroying the countryside one housing estate at a time whilst screwing us out of every penny they can grab "to save the planet". Evil or Very Mad


That's the truth if they can manage to do it within 4 years.
No 2nd chances for labour after this 1st debacle in power though so they're just wasting their (and our) time now tbh !
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 12 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
the houses won't get built,


They will, but not for "us" !
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Easy-X wrote:
the houses won't get built,


They will, but not for "us" !


A majority of new builds around us (like an hour away as we are middle of nowhere) have been council homes and the occasional private homeowners.

Presumably you are a boat person mindset. Not everyone gets handouts. They don't all get a free house.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Not everyone gets handouts. They don't all get a free house.


72% of Somalis live in social housing compared to the average of 16% for the UK population overall. You wanna go down this road?
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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72% of Somalis live in social housing compared to the average of 16% for the UK population overall. You wanna go down this road?


No government would survive if it left immigrant families sleep rough on the streets. Babies starving and freezing to death etc. Whatever the governments true motivations they cant escape those optics.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No government would survive if it left immigrant families sleep rough on the streets.


So the optics of armed forces veterans sleeping rough is acceptable?
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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A majority of new builds around us (like an hour away as we are middle of nowhere) have been council homes and the occasional private homeowners.

Presumably you are a boat person mindset. Not everyone gets handouts. They don't all get a free house.


Labour has said they are going to stop paying hotel owners to house migrants soon so where do you think all those people are going to go? As someone else already said, The Govt won't just forget about all these illegals and let them live on the streets with no support. There's not enough detention centres to put them in and even if there was the illegals would complain and the Human Rights Lawyers would kick off again so it's obvious they will all go in to nice free social housing when the hotels stop getting paid.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
FF68 wrote:


Labour has said they are going to stop paying hotel owners to house migrants soon so where do you think all those people are going to go? As someone else already said, The Govt won't just forget about all these illegals and let them live on the streets with no support. There's not enough detention centres to put them in and even if there was the illegals would complain and the Human Rights Lawyers would kick off again so it's obvious they will all go in to nice free social housing when the hotels stop getting paid.

Even if suitable sites were just waiting about ready for imaginary builders to move in, hardly anything will even start to happen for at least a year.
In reality the materials required are not available and importing skilled trades from 3rd world countries(?) and getting them up to speed with our HSE and everything else is hilariously impractical.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
doggone wrote:

Even if suitable sites were just waiting about ready for imaginary builders to move in, hardly anything will even start to happen for at least a year.
In reality the materials required are not available and importing skilled trades from 3rd world countries(?) and getting them up to speed with our HSE and everything else is hilariously impractical.


There's plenty of building firms in this country who can put up new build estates at lightning fast speed. If the Govt offers them contracts to do the work on new sites they could start within a couple of months easily. Something's definitely going to change about housing illegals in the near future so it will be interesting to see what happens next. If they all get put into Labours new homes I think the British public will go bonkers and start a revolution.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So the optics of armed forces veterans sleeping rough is acceptable?


Not to me it isn't.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaddyStu wrote:

Not to me it isn't.


Same here. There's very little support for our own citizens who are genuinely homeless because their lives took a turn for the worse and they got into problems they couldn't solve. We have to be on the streets for at least 3 months before we will even get a hostel and even when we get offered one of those we can only be there at night after 10pm and we have to be out at 7am the next morning. Lots of our homeless (with the exception of the druggies) had jobs at some stage in their lives and paid taxes into the system but nobody is giving them nice rooms in fancy hotels with 3 meals a day and pocket money to spend.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
FF68 wrote:
Labour has said they are going to stop paying hotel owners to house migrants soon so where do you think all those people are going to go?

The government have said they've got plans to end the use of hotels to hold asylum seekers by 2029 and that hotels will be phased out by cutting small boat crossings and building new government-owned accommodation for asylum seekers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xgzprn1vjo

It sounds like if / when the number of small boat crossings isn't cut sufficiently and if / when there hasn't been enough government owned accommodation for asylum seekers built then that means it won't be possible to stop using hotels to hold asylum seekers.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
the fact that anyone here believes a word the government say about the invasion i find sadly amusing.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
So the optics of armed forces veterans sleeping rough is acceptable?

Credit where it's due; The Government are decriminalising rough sleeping so the homeless vets will have one thing less to worry about:-
Angela Rayner throws homeless peeps a lifeline so that they can at least sleep soundly in their cardboard boxes...
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to v or not to v wrote:
the fact that anyone here believes a word the government say about the invasion i find sadly amusing.


I dont believe anything any political party says anymore. None of them are actually in charge of anything. They're just the 'face'.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 13 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Raffles wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
So the optics of armed forces veterans sleeping rough is acceptable?

Credit where it's due; The Government are decriminalising rough sleeping so the homeless vets will have one thing less to worry about:-
Angela Rayner throws homeless peeps a lifeline so that they can at least sleep soundly in their cardboard boxes...


It's shocking how genuine homeless people (especially men) get treated in this country. I spent 7 years being homeless through no fault of my own but thankfully I never had to sleep rough. I had a small delivery business at the time and was renting a private office in a storage facility that had 24/7 access, heating, showers, and a communal kitchen area. I also had a big van on the safe/free car park so sometimes I would sleep overnight in it just to make sure the facility staff didn't get too suspicious about why I was spending so much time in my office. The manager tried to catch me out several times by doing a surprise visit in the middle of the night and she was always checking that I didn't have a bed or mattress in the room so it was a constant game of cat-n-mouse trying to keep my homelessness a secret.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 14 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Raffles wrote:
Credit where it's due; The Government are decriminalising rough sleeping so the homeless vets will have one thing less to worry about:-
Angela Rayner throws homeless peeps a lifeline so that they can at least sleep soundly in their cardboard boxes...


If San Francisco and LA look like this:

https://www.kron4.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2023/01/BCN-20230118-POSTSWEEPINJUNCTION-01.jpg?w=640

Our politicians be like:

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:565/1*Irqbz57ypBnuGTuqmbkBXw.jpeg

Politicians only do things that benefit the people they represent, not the electorate.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 16 Jun 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If San Francisco and LA look like this

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/b6da/live/eabbcc50-69c3-11ef-a3e1-8be9c61c9f82.jpg.webp

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