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MarJay
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://taxjustice.uk/blog/how-would-a-wealth-tax-work-in-practice/

I would also put in an exemption for farmers, and I'd look at the largest farm by value versus productivity in the UK, and set that as the threshold for the payment. Farmers are a unique group where they primarily inherit the tools of their trade (land) and don't earn enough cash to purchase that land via other methods, i.e. they can ONLY inherit it, and without that inheritance mechanism, there would be a lot less farms and farmers.

Nobody is saying 'don't achieve, don't be successful'. Not one bit of it. However, can Elon Musk spend his wealth? No. Will he die with billions of net worth? Certainly. Is that fair? Not for the amount of work he's done. Same with JK Rowling, same with Warren Buffet etc etc.

I don't see what difference it makes if Jeff Bezos only has one yacht rather than five. Nobody, not one single person can see the material benefit of having two billion dollars in net worth versus one. The amount you need to live the most lavish lifestyle anyone has ever had is the same, and it's less than a billion dollars in cash. It's not a material difference versus a single mother on minimum wage who has to choose between eating and her child eating.

Personally? I've never fiddled my taxes. I've never worried about 'paying too much'. If there were a scheme that I could do that was legal but iffy where I could pay less tax I would not take it. I am not Jimmy Carr.

Fair is that everyone should have a roof over their head and enough food to eat. That's the minimum. If you want more, you work for it. Nobody is questioning that.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Fair is that everyone should have a roof over their head and enough food to eat.


So "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"?
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Fair is that everyone should have a roof over their head and enough food to eat.


So "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"?


It's a decent maxim, but it seems that those in need are being ignored, and those with bloated excessive ostentatious wealth are being allowed to run roughshod over society and democracy.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
It's a decent maxim...


It's a polite way of saying the ends justify the means.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

and yet, it depends on the ends, and the means. Anything other than that is sociopathy, especially letting the poor die on the streets, or at best struggle to survive.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Anything other than that is sociopathy...


And forcing people at gunpoint to labour for others is perfectly acceptable?
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Anything other than that is sociopathy...


And forcing people at gunpoint to labour for others is perfectly acceptable?


You don't need guns, just tax them so they are struggling and give the money to everyone that doesn't want to work for a living. Same result, less problems.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 15 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
You don't need guns, just tax them so they are struggling and give the money to everyone that doesn't want to work for a living. Same result, less problems.


How do you collect taxes without guns? Fair enough, HMRC aren't waving Glocks in peoples' faces after missing the self-assessment deadline but they are the final backstop of all governments if you're a particularly difficult citizen.

Please note, I'm not saying there's a better way of collecting taxes but I object to claiming the moral high ground with the typical "eat the rich!" lines. Governments should be very apologetic to their people when they relieve them of their labours rather than treating us as indentured servants.
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