my bikes seized but witch parts

killergibbo · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Karma :

well ive got a rs125 2002 model

its not had any oil in the gear box it was empty the bike has seized becuase i can not push the bike forward in 6th gear

the elec start dont work it just ticks tryin to turn the motor

but what i wanna know is what will i need to replace it never seized because of not havin 2t is cos there was no oil in the gear box will i need a new gear box??

Matt2301 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

sorry mate but it sounds like you fooked that bike right up. However, ill try and help. So what are you trying to say, that you let the gearbox oil run out totally?

killergibbo · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Karma :

ok i got the bike from a shop yesterday and they sold it me with out engine oil in it the bike is second hand and i have no watty

we r goin thought the stages of me tryin to get my money back so if i dont i wanna know if i can fix it

ok there is no oil in the gear box the back wheel slides wen in 6th gear but i can pull the bike backwards wen in gear with cluth out

i want to know if its the gear box that will be fucked or if it will be the whole engine i really need sum help on this 1 sum1 plz help me

the bikes a rs125 2002 gp1

the bike cost me £1700

how much will parts cost me if i can do it surly the bike aint trash it must be able to fix it

Ric · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Karma :

siezed usually means the piston i thought, which will mean in gear it wont turn at all, pullin in the clutch will let it wheel

the gear box oil should have affected the piston, as only 2t oil would

i assume the gear box has done summin untoward, sorry mate

killergibbo · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Karma :

so i need a new bottom end so whats the bottom end lol i mean do i just get a new gear box or what ?

Patto · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Karma :

Hi

Just to get the facts straight , if you are talking about a seized gearbox then the engine should start and run ok.
If it won't start off the button due to a transmission fault ie. locked into a gear or two then pulling in the clutch should get it to turn over and start,

If it won't then the clutch has a clearance/ release problem
if the transmission is dry the the clutch will likely be fried

Thats one problem and the reason it will not crank

secondly 6th gear sounds like it may have welded it self to a shaft
with excessive heat.

A gearbox/ engine strip will be needed to determine what parts are defective.

So an example shopping list may be:-

A set of clutch plates poss clutch basket etc
6th speed gear
shaft
bearings
gasket set

after costing that lot and labour for a mechanic to do it for you
you might decide to try and find a engine from ebay or a breakers
as being a cheaper option.

although I have no personal experience of that particular aprillia bike only the af1, and have only rebuilt Suzuki motors. I think it would apply to most 2 stroke setups.

best of luck

hope you get your money back

1700 is a lot for duffa

Patto
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ZRX61 · Victor Meldrew Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

Good fucking grief, learn how to read/write English & start again FFS! Rolling Eyes

R4nger · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Karma :

Warrenty does not matter from the shop whatever it says, it just adds to your existing consumer rights. You should get your money back. Go speak to your local CAB and Trading Standards.

houlsby · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Karma :

where ever you bought it from go back, take the bike with you and get your money back, if the fault is yours i.e you knew it had no gearbox oil in the bike then it is YOUR responsability. but otherwise get them to either: give you your money bk or take them to court, but for 1700 quid it must of done a few miles, if your bike isnt turning over then its possibly your engine thats seised (i dont know much but mine has done the same) and i have had 2 new engines in 2k hope this hleps m8

R4nger · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Karma :

Mind you, the pre-ride inspections do say that you have to check oil levels so if he did go to court then the dealer could argue that he did not do his checks and therefor it is his own fault.
If they did not tell you it had no oil and you can prove that bikes normally have oil in them when sold.

killergibbo · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Karma :

no but why sud i check the bike they told me they check the bike all over once they first get them and they said the bike is a ride away infront of 3 of us so i think we have a gd case

houlsby · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Karma :

have you spoke to the dealer yet?

BikerBen · Trackday Trickster Joined: 07 May 2004 Karma :

This post could have been resolved in 3 threads for crying out loud. If you just explained clearly in the first place there wouldn't be all this confusion. I hope people read robby's new post about spelling out problems clearly with correct grammar.

*sigh* Rolling Eyes

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