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Bod
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: 16 year old biker...... Reply with quote

Hi all my next door neighbour wants to buy a bike for their son who is 16. Now is it possbile to buy a 125cc bike and restrict it to the output of a 50cc powered bike?

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PostPosted: 14:44 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, at 16 all you can have is a 50cc as far as I know!
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not about power, it's about capacity. At 16 the bike must not exceed 50cc.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are your neighbors trying to get rid of their son Razz ?
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

their's dozens of 50cc's you can buy which are made to look like (real bikes). On eBay they sell 50's made to look like american chopper bikes and cruisers with fake vtwin heads an crap like that Very Happy

trouble is you ride a scooter you look like a knob
you buy one of them 50s made to look like a chopper you look like a knob

can't win, tell umm to wait till he's 17 then take a restricted access course for 350 then buy whatever he wants.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda have a bike called dream50 or something like that. Supposed to be quick and it looks great.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humm, not about power but capacity......humm, ok. The point being is this, buy a 125cc bike get it restricted to a 50cc power, after 17 derestrict the bike and have a new lease of life??
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, 50cc is ALL you can have at 16 and even that has to be restricted to like 30mph or something silly. But nobody does Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit silly I have to admit, if the kid wants to keep with bikes after 17 then he has to sell that moped/bike then buy a 125cc. Stupid.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the joys of biking mate. Its all there to be enjoyed, even the selling and buying. There are many sports 50's out there, a lot of them are quite fast. Some kind of look like 125's. You just got to look around.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My little derestricted 50 can manage about 55mph, and that's plenty for me as I'm learning; I use it mainly around town and for slowly getting used to the twisties without dying. I'm 17 so don't really worry about getting caught doing above 27mph or whatever a restricted bike does which is completely rediculous and imo, dangerous.

I like the fact that, as it's such a high-revving engine, it's a bike you have to work to get going, and I think that through that, my clutch control will improve, rather than just feeding the throttle in at the bite point.

I agree that it's stupid that a 50 is your only option at 16 but if anything, it offers you more experienced on the roads setting you up more readily for a bigger bike later on.

I guess my point is 50s aren't that crap for a complete novice. With regards to Josh|RD125LC's point, a lot of sports 50s these days are pretty big. In my experience, my 50 has been mistaken for a 250 a few times.... probably because there are more Aprilia Chesterfield 250s around than 50s....

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PostPosted: 15:34 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The restriction rule isn't even enforced i don't think.

Too costly and a waste of time. Most 16 year old should be able to cope with 55mph max anyway IMO.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The shop I first looked at for buying a 50cc scooter asked whether I'd prefer a 125 thats restricted, cant remember the shop but if its any help they all wore fleeces with kawasaki green piping.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear that the Gilera Runner 180 is a bit of a nutter machine for a scooter. I read somehwere that they have been known to top 110 mph. Now there's mad rush for a 16 yr old Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

westendboy7 wrote:
I hear that the Gilera Runner 180 is a bit of a nutter machine for a scooter. I read somehwere that they have been known to top 110 mph. Now there's mad rush for a 16 yr old Thumbs Up


1) that speed is a lie i bet sum 15year old yold you that
2) a 16 year old cant ride that, as i) its 174ccm ii) u need a full bike licence to ride it...

yeah they are fast, sum of u lot shud ride a tuned 125 Laughing put a smile on all ur faces

but as said at 16 the only thing u can ride is a moped (a ptw with a engine no bigger then 50cc and no faster then 30mph)
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

get him an RS50

at least then his mates will respect him a little and other bikers wont laff to much
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a DNA50. Its automatic scootay style so no need to worry about clutch or gears, you can concentrate on road use as your only learning, so every bit of road experience helps for the future. However, it has the looks of a bike. It may be small for a bike but its big for a scooter.... if you get what i mean. People always ask me if its a 125 and do i have a full license. It also handles great as you can lean more than on a normal scooter.

Gilera DNA's..... now thats the 50 to have... ha ha
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat172 wrote:
westendboy7 wrote:
I hear that the Gilera Runner 180 is a bit of a nutter machine for a scooter. I read somehwere that they have been known to top 110 mph. Now there's mad rush for a 16 yr old Thumbs Up


1) that speed is a lie i bet sum 15year old yold you that
2) a 16 year old cant ride that, as i) its 174ccm ii) u need a full bike licence to ride it...

yeah they are fast, sum of u lot shud ride a tuned 125 Laughing put a smile on all ur faces

but as said at 16 the only thing u can ride is a moped (a ptw with a engine no bigger then 50cc and no faster then 30mph)



I assure you the scooter is a 50cc model and the information was taken from this month's copy of Fast Bikes
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

westendboy7 wrote:
I assure you the scooter is a 50cc model and the information was taken from this month's copy of Fast Bikes


Gilera Runner 180... the clue's in the name Smile

It's most definitely not 50cc.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]Gilera Runner 180... the clue's in the name Smile

It's most definitely not 50cc.[/quote]

Well I hate to be a stick in the mud but check this out and then call me a liar


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PostPosted: 15:10 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rest my case m'lod Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon that's a misprint. As you can see here there's a whole range of Runners of different sizes. I find it very hard to believe that a 49cc engine can be made to make 21bhp and do 110mph - but I'm more than happy to be proven wrong Smile
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if Fast Bikes have their facts right then being a 16 yr old right right now holds the prospect of a lot of fun Wink
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get a runner 50 to 21hp+ with the right cash, but it wont make 100mph. It will make its peak power a bit higher than 8000rpm and will be a 70cc bike. Looks like they have there info wrong to me.

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