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gimpy limp
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: how do you jump a bike... Reply with quote

jump as in the battery ...you can blow the thing jumping a motorbike battery using a car battery and jump leads can't you?

What if you used one of them booster packs for cars? or dyou need to buy a seperate bike booster?

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PostPosted: 20:25 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I jump mine with a car battery, still 12 volts. Works every time.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm...

Why not stick it in gear, Clutch in, and get sombody to push you. When you get enough momentum going, Dump the clutch and boom boom.

If not, I dont think you will blow it up if you are just doing it the once. I may be wrong. But Dam_buster jumped his moped from his car battery.

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PostPosted: 20:29 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, jumping a bike battery with a car battery doesn't create any problems. I've done it numerous times.

If there isn't a car (or jump leads) nearby, you can jump start a bike by:

Rolling it along a straight road (preferably downhill) in neutral and then when you've collected enough speed (about 4-5 mph) kick it into first gear and the bike should jump into life. If it doesn't work the first time, try a few more times. If it still doesn't start, then find a car to jump start it with.

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PostPosted: 20:32 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

how fast dyou have to be going to do that? in a car you ned to get up to about 10/15 mph then dump it.

I'd prefer another method tbh
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

nevermind posted that reply same time as you, cheers
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv jumped bikes off cars, other bikes, and those booster thingys without problems Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaz wrote:
First of all, jumping a bike battery with a car battery doesn't create any problems. I've done it numerous times.

If there isn't a car (or jump leads) nearby, you can jump start a bike by:

Rolling it along a straight road (preferably downhill) in neutral and then when you've collected enough speed (about 4-5 mph) kick it into first gear and the bike should jump into life. If it doesn't work the first time, try a few more times. If it still doesn't start, then find a car to jump start it with.

Good Luck. Thumbs Up


First?! Are you mad?! That will just burn your tyres! Highest gear up ou can get offers least resistance
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

what gear would you recommend?

Highest gear up ou can get

didn't quite understand that part, would 2nd be safer? You don't think it should be done in first then I take it?
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The higher up you get the less likely your back wheel will just lock up, and in top gear, when the bike does start (you'll need to have the throttle open a baw hair) youre not going to go anywhere cus ure engine will be at low revs, just grab a fistful of clutch, rev, and take for a SMOOTH ride
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh right, i gets ya
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: how do you jump a bike... Reply with quote

gimpy limp wrote:
jump as in the battery ...you can blow the thing jumping a motorbike battery using a car battery and jump leads can't you?

What if you used one of them booster packs for cars? or dyou need to buy a seperate bike booster?

https://images.orgill.com/200x200/6644611.JPG

GAAAAAAH!!!
Misinformation. You will not harm a 12v motorcycle by using a car battery. The car battery just has a higher capacity of energy stored.
This has been asked before Here
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do i jump a bike?..........................


Not tried iy but i spose i would take a long run up the just leap with all my might as high as i can get! Wink



Very sorry but someone had to say it, i know you was all thinking it.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

beast rider wrote:
How do i jump a bike?..........................


Not tried iy but i spose i would take a long run up the just leap with all my might as high as i can get! Wink



Very sorry but someone had to say it, i know you was all thinking it.

Or wait in the bushes 'till it gets dark, then pounce on it.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

or climb up a step ladder next to it, wait patiently for a small gust and over you go.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ride it up a ramp and don't stop at the end.
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember someone jump started a car from another vehicle and he was warned do not attempt it, but he shrugged it off and we stood back watching him ask the driver of the other vehicle to start up his articulated lorry, yes an artic !

Suddenly you could smell the waft of freshly burning insulation from through out all of the electrics of the car.... None the less he had to call out a recovery vehicle to get it towed to the nearest garage for major rework job. When the recovery guy turned he to walk around the corner so as not be seen laughing his head off ! Smile

He spent a pretty penny trying to get that car fixed because everything electrical was wasted !


Moral of the story is do not hook up to another vehicle that exceeds your own voltage output.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run and jump starting is easy follow this simple procedure:

1. Turn ignition on, set bike into 2nd gear preferably and hold in clutch.
2. Run along side bike until at what is deemed a fast enough speed by you.
3. Jump so you land on the saddle and at this exact moment release the clutch.
4.Hopefully the engine will have started, if so pull clutch in and place bike in neutral.

There is another way, this is for the more experienced, stick the bike into 2nd or 3rd again and then roll the bike until just past compression, clutch in, run jump etc and it should fire almost instantly!
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your step 3 would interesting if the timing was out. Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jumping is perfectly safe if done propperly UNLESS (afaik) you are unfortuneate enough to have a fuel injected bike or any complex computer controlled gubbins.. spikes kill these reguarly (spoke to a bmw owner who had just payed £800 for a new ecu after a botched jump start).. not allways but be carefull! There are "ecu savers" on the market which will protect from this sort of thing...

If you jump from a car DO NOT start the car.. excess voltage will fry things.. Vans+ anything biger might run from 24volt systems, as mentioned is not a good thing...


If you jump from another battery or car or whatever...
Get the jump lead + and connect to the bike + terminal
Clip the other end to the donor battery + terminal
Clip the - lead to the - terminal on the donor
Then clip the - lead to the - on the battery or a suitable grounding point on the frame.

As soon as you get it going remove in reverse order Thumbs Up

Bump starting is very easy runing jumps are not needed...

Ignition on, stand by the left of the bike, second gear,
hold the clutch in, run forward with the bike till your going a decent speed and smoothly let the clutch out (shouldn't need to be let all the way out),
when it catches pull the clutch back in and give it some revs (dont go mad, brake covered) to keep it alive,
(now you have it going you can stop running Razz) when its runing and not going to die (warmed up, if it was then it will be ok straight away obviously) put it back in neutral and get on when your ready... (make sure you have the front brake covered all the time your doing this!)

Dead easy... done this with my cg, a mates 125, and my old cx...
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumping is easy, have to do it all the time on my Uncles vet as it has no clutch and i have seen many classic road racers with no kickstart, bump all the way.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

zero wrote:
Jumping is perfectly safe if done propperly UNLESS (afaik) you are unfortuneate enough to have a fuel injected bike or any complex computer controlled gubbins.. spikes kill these reguarly (spoke to a bmw owner who had just payed £800 for a new ecu after a botched jump start).. not allways but be carefull! There are "ecu savers" on the market which will protect from this sort of thing...

If you jump from a car DO NOT start the car.. excess voltage will fry things.. Vans+ anything biger might run from 24volt systems, as mentioned is not a good thing...


If you jump from another battery or car or whatever...
Get the jump lead + and connect to the bike + terminal
Clip the other end to the donor battery + terminal
Clip the - lead to the - terminal on the donor
Then clip the - lead to the - on the battery or a suitable grounding point on the frame.

As soon as you get it going remove in reverse order Thumbs Up

Bump starting is very easy runing jumps are not needed...

Ignition on, stand by the left of the bike, second gear,
hold the clutch in, run forward with the bike till your going a decent speed and smoothly let the clutch out (shouldn't need to be let all the way out),
when it catches pull the clutch back in and give it some revs (dont go mad, brake covered) to keep it alive,
(now you have it going you can stop running Razz) when its runing and not going to die (warmed up, if it was then it will be ok straight away obviously) put it back in neutral and get on when your ready... (make sure you have the front brake covered all the time your doing this!)

Dead easy... done this with my cg, a mates 125, and my old cx...

Yeah, like he says don't start the car.
Arctic is 24v so no wonder the car fried Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you say it's easy to bump start bikes,it depends on the bike.
Ever tried bump starting big V twins?Not easy at all.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy99 wrote:
Well you say it's easy to bump start bikes,it depends on the bike.
Ever tried bump starting big V twins?Not easy at all.


The cx is pretty frickin big Razz 240kg maybe a bit more... as is the transalp, not tryed that one though yet.. if its engine resistance/capacity you just go up a gear + work the clutch out very carefully..
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 26 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

just tow it for a bit you'll soon have it going.
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