250's

houlsby · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Karma :

seen as i am lookin for a new bike for when i pass my test im looking for one
a. that i wont get pulled randomly for stuff i aint done!
b. that wont go bang everytime i look at it (like my rs125)
c. i can afford to insure without saving for half the year
d. wont loose all its selling price
e. is comfortable
f. is a sportie bike
been looking at a hell of a lot of bikes, sat on a zx6r and a thundercat then tried insuring them..... lets say no!!! i like the smell and sound of two strokes but i dont want the problems that ive had on my rs (without a warrenty i would have been in some serious debt) any help on a bike guys (and girls)?

johnsilva · Traffic Copper Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Karma :

you wanna 250 4T?
get a mint gpx250, fills your criteria perfectly. (does 80mpg)

or bigger?
CBR400 gull arm -wonderful bike

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The#Doctor# · Spanner Monkey Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

If you don't want something thats going to blow up but is still quick etc go for something like a hornet 600 as the insurance wouldn't be that different if you went for a sport 400 maybe even cheaper

houlsby · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Karma :

actually, i want a bike i can insure but im not goin to get really bored of and have to be crampled into a tiny little space! (i have an rs!) not bothered what bie it is as long as it is.... sports....fast...RELIABLE....not a zillion years old....CHEAP TO INSURE!

Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

My MZ 250 fills all of those except the last one.

Very cheap to buy, very cheap to run, very cheap to insure.

I had the speedo go off the dial yesterday. (the speedo stops at 80mph but the needle doesn't!).

Very cheap to insure, doesn't loose its value, cuz it's worth fuck all to begin with.

They are very comfortable.

I know you won't pay much attention to this suggestion, but I'll assure you it is a good suggestion if you want to save money and not have a ridiculous bike.

Failing that, it's a TZR250 all the way, insurance won't be very very cheap, but not horrible. You can pick up a nice one off ebay for <=£500. And they look gorgeous, go like stink and don't lose much value because they're cheap to begin with.

They may go bang though.

Gaz

froggy128 · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Karma :

have you got a picture of the MZ 250

houlsby · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Karma :

do you mean his mz? he tzr looks good but i like the 125 style frame with that engine in it! what are those kwak 250's like the kl-r's or summert?

A J · Scooby Slapper Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Karma :

How about an old sv650s as they ares cheap to insure and you get loads or performance for your money especially since the new style frame etc came out You can get a very good bike for little money.

Very Happy

froggy128 · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Karma :

any information on this bike
https://www.hsmc.jp/lineup/07.gt250/img/00.jpg

houlsby · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Karma :

yeh i been pushing myself to buy one, not done any quotes or owt yet, other chef at work has one (he is very very very very fat like 25 stone) an his suspension is sky high, so i aint been able to sit on one properly!!! will it be a lot to insure?

Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

My actual MZ and TZR are on this page: https://www.bikepics.com/members/gazdaman/

The TZR doesn't particularly look like a bike at the moment, but you can see some nice examples:

https://www.bikepics.com/pictures/067012/
https://www.50cc.nl/images/tzr250-2.JPG
https://www.strappe.com/tzr250.jpg

The MZ would be a smart choice, but the TZR is the prettier choice.

I'm smart and pretty, I bought both. Just to keep the 600 company.

EDIT: and the bike above is a hyosung comet 250, they make a 125 and they make an SV650 competitor. They're good bikes, but not particularly cheap enough to make them serious competition. There was a review about them in a magazine recently. They liked the 650.

The comet 125 is also a gorgeous looking 125. A good bike.

Gaz

froggy128 · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Karma :

www.250ccbikes.com

bish777 · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Karma :

Can vouch for the MZ,

handle brilliantly, run on a pittance, reliable, economical for a two stroke, brilliant owners club full of good old boys.

I ran a ETZ 301 Kanuni for 70,000 miles of fun as a courier tool and as a second bike, only thing that went was one brake light switch and a speedo cable.

This is a 251:
https://goldwing.bikepics.net/mz-etz251-90-bikepics-212892.jpg

Not pretty but they're good machines.

The TS/Supa5/ETZ 250/300(ETZ only) have a longer frame and are better on the motorway/

The ETZ 251/301 have a beefed up ETZ 125 style frame, and handle better in the twisties than the earlier ones.[/url]
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Ric · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Karma :

are you lookin asap?

400 sports are popular choices for all the reasons u say

250 4t i think are a bit rare incase of the worse of needing parts?

if u hold on ill have my project zx4r for sale will look mint

mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 May 2004 Karma :

proximity · Crazy Courier Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Karma :

I pure love my new 250. Costs me under 150 quid to insure with no NCB.
Its rare as fuck though so parts are a bitch but manageable.

Oh yeah and its fast.

Here we are:
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froggy128 · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Karma :

how much did that cost you?

proximity · Crazy Courier Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Karma :

Under £500 Shhh!

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

houlsby · Traffic Copper Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Karma :

Ric · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Karma :

its ok mate was half jokin, my project has only jus started

its a '94 which will maybe be sprayed in kawasaki motogp scheme Smile

wont be ready for a few months tho

on my road bike i pay £670 TPFT

thats 1yr NCB at 19 garaged in northwest london (near ace cafe)
with datatool alarm took the £30 off per year

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Rather than looking at a specific capacity, why not look at a specific power range?

250cc bike can range from about 15hp to 65hp or so. So some 125cc can make over the power of that lower limit while some 1200cc bikes make about the same power as the upper figure suggested.

Have you considered a trail bike?
Something like a DR350 is just on the 33hp limit, easy to maintain, crashes well and doesn't cost that much to fix up if things do go wrong.

Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

You won't get cheaper fun than an MZ 251.

I don't think they're bad looking at all, add some sticky tyres, some new bars are a must IMO.

But they do make a poor amount of power, around 17 untuned, but the race ones put out about 30.

Still good for overtaking in the fast lane of the M25. If you're anywhere near me you're welcome to take mine out for a spin.

I'm about to add some hayabusa footpegs to it, as at the moment my feet are actually further forward than my hands which is ever so slightly off-putting.

Gaz