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DanceLikeAMon...
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Why did no one warn me???? Reply with quote

Morning!

Just been out on the new bike for a test run (a couple of biggish mechanical problems, but you can go and see those in the Workshop forum Confused ), my god it's hard to steer when you switch to a faired bike! Shocked

I almost came off at the first corner when I turned the handlbars, and the front of the bike didn't seem to move. I assumed (wrongly!) that the fairing was attached to the handlebars, it feels so wierd that it is fixed but the bars move!

How long did it take people to get used to this? I was out for about an hour, and still found it strange.
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beasty1711
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

what did u go from and too?
personally i never had a problem with it
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went from a dt125 to a kawasaki zzr and i got the same shock, i thought. hold on! im not turning! Embarassed

you get used it it, after a while it seems better! Thumbs Up
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Claud 14.7 to 1
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's cos you have to leeeeeeeean the bike over as well. Laughing Very Happy
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beasty1711
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

u shouldnt really be looking at that bit anyway... its that road ya need to stare at Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the way my bigger and heavier bike cruises through corners and stays nicely planted even when quite leant over. Very Happy
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DanceLikeAMon...
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from a little SR125 to a "big" GS500, less of a jump in power than I thought, but scarey steering! Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm, mostly, I can't steer the smaller 125's!

I had a Hornet, then a firestorm, then an RS125 and finally my TL1000R and I never had a problem with steering.

If you positively think about counter steering, you will simply add more pressure and get the thing over just as quick. If you have no idea how you turn the thing, (ie, you just want to turn and it does) then you will struggle.

Try reading this, it might help: Cornering Skills, The basics.

and:

Don't Tense Up.

You might want to look at this as well: Don't Stare at Trees.

And for slightly more information, try looking at these: Who's Round the Bend, and catch My Drift?.

I'd recommend reading these, i wish someone had told me about these things when I started riding, ie, before I started crashing!

Hope these help alittle. Cool
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanceLikeAMonkey wrote:
I went from a little SR125 to a "big" GS500, less of a jump in power than I thought, but scarey steering! Shocked


Dodsi did try to steer you clear of the GS500 as they are pretty gutless for a 500 especially with the restrictor fitted. Dodsi's ER-5 would have been a better bike IMHO - and you didn't even pop round to look at my GPz Sad
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check your tyre pressures. If their low it can make the bike a bastard to steer.

When i first took m VFR out for a test ride i couldnt wait to get off it as it was the worst handeling bike i've ever been on. I put 30PSI in the front tyre and it transformed the bike making it alot easier to turn in, and straighten up coming out of corners.
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DanceLikeAMon...
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dodsi's ER-5 would have been a better bike IMHO - and you didn't even pop round to look at my GPz

Aye, but this was a few hundred cheaper and looked like a bargain (at the time!), and I wasn't really after a sporty bike - as being a bit of a bloater I would have made a comical sight!

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Check your tyre pressures. If their low it can make the bike a bastard to steer.

It actually steers fine, it's just getting used to the handlebars moving and the fairing not that seems like madness!
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember I used to check if my headlight was on in the day time on my 125 by the just wiggling the bars. First time I tried that on the XJ I felt stupid.

I got used to it very quickly tbh, and after a while you won't even notice. You certainly wouldn't want a fairing that moved with the bars!

Gaz
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked i went from a Z750 to a CBR6 years back...was fun to say the least !! Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went from a SR125, to a CB400, to a FZR600 faired... took about 3 minutes, then was in love with fairing Twisted Evil
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DanceLikeAMon...
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but I had to contend with the jump in speed, the fairing and the general brokenness of the bike. As well as what my mummy calls my "specialness" when it comes to learning things.

Took me 3 minutes... to start crying in a heap in the corner.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went staright from a naked Hyosung Comet 125 to a Honda CBR600F Sport and I had no problems at all. But then I got used to leaning the 125 over all the time.
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got that effect the first time I rode a faired bike; also worried me, when it all felt strange on a test ride.

Got used to it fairly quicky though and hop between faired and non-faired bikes all the time now without noticing.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be terrible going between bikes, took me ages to get used to them and then I didn't like jumping on another bike, different riding position etc.. now though I can jump on most bikes and ride fine.. you get used to it with experience, before long you'll find the faired bike fine, and would be able to change between bikes without noticing the difference Cool
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PostPosted: 02:42 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had this problem, didnt feel like the bike was doing what i wanted it to do, just takes a while to adjust. And once you do, you will love it, theres no turning back!!

(coz U turns are quite difficult in narrow roads Wink )
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PostPosted: 04:56 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's surprising just how quickly you get used to the feel of your particular bike. I took out my Zephyr 550 the other day, which I rode regularly for 4 years before I bought my X11 a little over a month ago, and found it a somewhat strange, even scary experience. Despite the fact that I've covered 1000's of miles on it, it felt very small, light and awkward.
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PostPosted: 05:52 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrpeak wrote:
i went from a dt125 to a kawasaki zzr and i got the same shock, i thought. hold on! im not turning! Embarassed

you get used it it, after a while it seems better! Thumbs Up


I saw a GSXR400, a faired bike with clocks that turn with the bars - I looked at it and I thought "wtf"? Confused

Clocks that turn with bars are just strange Laughing . I like my instruments to stay in front of me where I can see them Smile.
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DanceLikeAMon...
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PostPosted: 07:05 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also weird going from the sitting straight up and down position of the SR, to leaning forward over the tank a bit.

I tell you, I'm really glad I didn't get a sports bike, they must be uncomfortable as heck!
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanceLikeAMonkey wrote:
It's also weird going from the sitting straight up and down position of the SR, to leaning forward over the tank a bit.

I tell you, I'm really glad I didn't get a sports bike, they must be uncomfortable as heck!


I thought that when I went from the sat up position of the Zephyr to the over the tank position of the X11. But it's surprisingly comfortable. Although I used to have an RD250 with ace bars that left my back aching.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just gone from a Virago to a GSX, the differences were very noticeable at first; the seating was wrong, my shoulders, neck and wrists ached for two days, I couldn't see the front of the bike and finally, OHMIGAWD I'M LEANING IT OVER SO FAR I'M GONNA LOWSIDE IT!!!

I got used to it very quickly. Thumbs Up
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