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RooRoo
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: 33BHP restriction - ignored? Reply with quote

I've got a few mates who ride bikes on the restricted licence, one has the papers to claim its restricted, the other has no papers, no restriction, the police never seem to quiz it, even if they've been pulled...and I know most people on here have full power bikes, seems like it isn't really enforced, do the police just not know the law with regard to bikes, or just don't care? Seems strange that so many get away with it, as no one seems to get away with having no tax, or MOT for very long...
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's because to check it you wither need to be caught speeding at over 110MPH or the Police need to take off the Fuel tank whatever to get into the carbs. Even if they have the paperwork.

I still have mine in. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a daft law that only a "minority" stick to Wink

Jon - I'll give you two months before you want them out. Although Thumbs Up to you if you keep them in Smile
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I dunno if i'd bother restricting or not, I think if I bought a bike that had the papers but not the restriction I'd just leave it, seems a strange law as any car driver thats just passed his test (and has rich parents can get in a fast car more dangerous than any bike!)

I mean, even a peageot 106 is more dangerous than a bike..
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was one of the first people to get a 33bhp restriction, and i never stuck after 6 months. I was pulled, never questioned a few times.

If they need to prove it, they'll dyno the bike. But as i only ever get pulled thus far for dead tail lights, which the LED one ought to stop happening lol, i was never caught out.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was one of the first people to get a 33bhp restriction, and i never stuck after 6 months. I was pulled, never questioned a few times.

If they need to prove it, they'll dyno the bike. But as i only ever get pulled thus far for dead tail lights, which the LED one ought to stop happening lol, i was never caught out.

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PostPosted: 15:37 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well when i passed my restricted license test back july 2001, i got my vfr nc30 restricted .

the consequences would be if i but i decided to not take that risk and am happy because i didnt

Not saying anyone should do it or not do it but make sure you know what the consequences are before you do
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been lead to belive that in theory, if they pull you, they can dyno your bike. However, if innocent, and your bike is 33bhp, then they have to compensate you for the inconvience. On the other hand, they can theoretically have your bike crushed.

This is just what my dealer told me. I've been pulled once, and they never checked or asked to see documentation.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

insurance thing mostly, say you crashed and the insurance folk sends someone out to survey it they'll know exactly what to look for and they'd take it apart to see if their was a restrictor or not (means the difference between them paying out and not having to pay)
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think any police officer would dyno a bike just on the off chance.

Mine's still restricted but I want them out.

Lots of my riding buddies have been pulled on full power ZX6-rs, never been questioned.

Of course in the event of a MAJOR accident an insurance company probably would check, so it's swings and roundabouts...

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PostPosted: 15:42 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason I would want my bike derestricted after only 5 days of riding is that apparantly acceleration is faster. Which would be handy for overtaking. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
The only reason I would want my bike derestricted after only 5 days of riding is that apparantly acceleration is faster. Which would be handy for overtaking. Smile


That's the main reason I derestricted mine. I didn't have enough punch when over taking. Caused a few iffy moments, and so I changed it, to try and stop me from misjudging it. Going from a Stage I dynojetted bandit to 33bhp Daytona was difficult. Sad
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, did derestricting make acceleration better?
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn right it does Jonny Boy!!!! In any case, derestriciton ALWAYS improves acceleration. I think Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Re: 33BHP restriction - ignored? Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
do the police just not know the law with regard to bikes, or just don't care?

You'll have to ask a traffic police man if you want the actual answer. Razz

I was stopped on my ZX6R by a bike cop, I was 17. He thought that was the largest I could ride until 21. I have not been asked for any proof of restriction on a ZX6R or on a TL1000R by anyone. A few people on here been done by police for things which wouldn't be possible on their bike if it was 33bhp. Laughing

It's the insurance I'd be worried about rather than the police though, if you had someone claiming against you and your insurance company noticed the bike wasn't restricted then you'd have a very large bill coming your way. Never heard of an insurance company actually noticing the lack of restrictors in a bike but there's no reason why it couldn't happen. If they're looking at having to pay out a lots then I'd expect them to start looking for ways out of footing the bill.

If your insurance company did notice, anyone claiming off you would claim from the Motor Insurance Bureau who would then theoretically go after you (the uninsured driver) for their money.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

As most of you probably know by now i have a GS500 and thats got the restrictors in, and will continue to have them in for two reasons. 1) People without the 33bhp limit arent realy interested in a 10 year old commuter bike with a top speed of 115mph. So keeping the restrictors in, is one of its very few selling points Wink
2) IMO keeping the 33bhp is about keeping yourself safe (as well as reducing the chance of being raped analy by the law).
Dont get me wrong, i regularly get absolutely pathetically bored of the power exerted by the GS, but then i stop and actually think why its there, and just think to myself, "Its All Just Character Building". (Which is also what i told myself when i was riding home in the pelting rain and hail in jeans and a hoody at 11pm on my 50cc GSM at 16 Wink ) Very Happy
So Thumbs Up to those who keep those annoying little plates in for the whole 2 years!
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've kept mine in the ZX6R. Only a year and 2 days left. Main reason is the power would be difficult to control with my experience and i wouldn't want to shell out for insurance costs.

I read on another forum about some guy who got caught out by the insurance on a bandit i think. It was crushed by the police, the guy got 12 points for no license tax mot or insurance and as well as being fined quite alot had to pay for all damages done. Puts me off tbh. Also my friend has a zx6r and is unrestricted and he can't really handle the power so he is getting it restricted this week. Neutral
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
I've kept mine in the ZX6R. Only a year and 2 days left. Main reason is the power would be difficult to control with my experience and i wouldn't want to shell out for insurance costs.

I read on another forum about some guy who got caught out by the insurance on a bandit i think. It was crushed by the police, the guy got 12 points for no license tax mot or insurance and as well as being fined quite alot had to pay for all damages done. Puts me off tbh. Also my friend has a zx6r and is unrestricted and he can't really handle the power so he is getting it restricted this week. Neutral


^sheesh. Can't your mate just use his throttle hand as a restriction method???? Or does he not trust himself....Confused
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
I've kept mine in the ZX6R. Only a year and 2 days left. Main reason is the power would be difficult to control with my experience and i wouldn't want to shell out for insurance costs.

You're paying exactly the same for your insurance as you would be if your bike was de-restricted. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
So, did derestricting make acceleration better?


Yeah mate, crack it open when over taking someone and it's a second (total guess) or so before you're past them, compared to restricted, where it's a good couple of seconds. The less time you spend over taking (espically on single carriage ways) the better. I don't really understand anyone who says they can't 'handle' the 100bph. I must admit, I do struggle to keep things smooth on my friends R1, but a 600, I've never had problems with, it's just a cast of throttle control. I have respect for anyone that keeps thier bikes restricted for two years though. Very sensible people, need more people like that imo. And you don't need more than 33bhp to do all the cool tricks on bikes. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
So, did derestricting make acceleration better?




Laughing

Dunno about them Bandits but it makes Hornet go a bit quicker Wink

33bhp is for wusses Razz , if i get caught at over 110mph im running Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 22:31 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike is restricted and I intend to keep it that way for the rest of my 2 year restriction. I have about a year and 10 months left Sad but then I don't want to take the risk of getting caught with them out, even if it is a minimal chance of getting caught.

As said before, I do get completely bored of the power at times on my bike but I just live with it and I'm sure at the end of my restriction I'll get somekind of satisfaction out of it.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

KLR600 wrote:
My bike is restricted and I intend to keep it that way for the rest of my 2 year restriction. I have about a year and 10 months left Sad but then I don't want to take the risk of getting caught with them out, even if it is a minimal chance of getting caught.

As said before, I do get completely bored of the power at times on my bike but I just live with it and I'm sure at the end of my restriction I'll get somekind of satisfaction out of it.


10bhp bet you cant wait Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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10bhp bet you cant wait


He he, yeah, it's a kind of morals thing - bah, you know what I mean... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 09 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr Nick wrote:

33bhp is for wusses Razz , if i get caught at over 110mpg im running Thumbs Up


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