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PostPosted: 20:12 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: The cheek of it! Reply with quote

I was doing my usual filtering home along the North Circular in London, at a speed I consider reasonable for traffic moving around me at 5mph. I was doing about 20mph. A car about 15 feet in front of me proceeds to cross over the lane and indicates. As a result I was right next to him (having braked fairly sharpish) and gave him a hefty blast of horn. He pulled back fairly smartly but said to me,

"Why did you block me off, I have my indicator flashing".

I nearly dropped the bike laughing, but managed to explain to him the basic rule of mirror, signal, manoeuvre NOT manoeuvre, signal which is what he did - he didn't appreciate this little lesson at 6pmish and told me to f@@@k off. I shook my head sagely and went on my way.

The cheek of it - but seriously if anyone else had been tearing down there at 40mph (as some bikers do), they'dve been off.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a source of constant amazement to me how many people think it is acceptable to sit in a lane with their flasher on when they want to pull out despite there being no gap for them to move into. Even more amazing the people who think that doing so means you should give way to them.

They genuinely think they are correct too, so it is no good arguing with them. I had a huge argument with someone about this one and despite showing them the relevant sections of the Highway code and the Road Traffic Act, they still would not conceed the point.

They must all think they are driving buses.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Even more amazing the people who think that doing so means you should give way to them.


Mad

This happens to me often (the IDR is the worst for it when they realise they are in the wrong lane) people stick the indicator on and just go, as if I have to get out the way or something. One time I had to slam the brakes on so I didn't get squashed between a lady in a 206 and a lorry, then she had the cheek to wag her finger at me as the front of my car nearly got taken out! Got her back on the aproaching roundabout though Wink

Another thing is braking, then indicating at the last minute as they start to turn into a side road Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not supposed to indicate to come into an unbroken stream of traffic, then what are you supposed to do? I stopped in a layby for a break and to warm up a bit some time in January, somewhere in the middle of a 2 mile+ tailback, traffic I could walk faster than. I could see no alternative but to stick the blinker on and sit there until someone let me in; eventually someone let a gap grow and waved me in, for which I was very grateful. Was I supposed to sit there until there was a suitable gap in the mile of queueing traffic behind me?

If someone will give way and wave you into a huge queue because you've got the indicator on, then go for it I'd say. Only pull out if they have given way already however. That's the sin of these people doing U-turns and claiming that they indicated, so it's the bike's fault.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is a source of constant amazement to me how many people think it is acceptable to sit in a lane with their flasher on when they want to pull out despite there being no gap for them to move into.


I do this in the Van. If I'm not 'let in' I've got no chance of pulling out when cars are going 20+ mph; unless I am actually pulling out infront of someone, making them brake.

If people actually kept a decent distance between them etc it wouldn't so bad.

I'm also one of those annying middle lane hogs thanks to the above; as it often takes me ages to pull out, then even longer to get back up to speed.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the problem is with people who see the indicator as something they can use to barge there way through traffic, onto dual carriage ways/motorways or to change lanes. Rather than putting the indicator on and waiting, they seem to think it is permission for them to go into the space that you are currently occupying in the road, usualy with no observations.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arent the Kevlar/Carbon fibre Knuckled gloves for this situation? Punching the car when they cut you up? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive even had a van full of builders open a door to try and have me off. after performing a rossi like emergency stop. they just laughed, before driving off. if only i'd got the plate.!!!

amazing how stupid cagers are. remember they are ALL trying to kill you. its up to you to stay alive. shgouldnt be. but it is.

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PostPosted: 01:46 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
If you're not supposed to indicate to come into an unbroken stream of traffic, then what are you supposed to do?


You are supposed to wait for a gap. If you switched on your indicator before a gap appeared when pulling away from the side of the road on your driving test, you would fail. Big black 'X' in the box for observation.

When I see someones flashers coming on as I go past them on the motorway, I shit my pants.

1)Mirror, 2)Signal, 3)Manouver. Seeing an unbroken stream of traffic after the first part of this would (to my way of thinking) preclude proceeding to the second part, otherwise why did you bother looking in the mirror in the first place?? May as well just bang on your indicator regardless then look to see if anyone is coming (as a lot of cars do).
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe its now a thing of the past for motorists to indicate prior to turning? All i ever see on the road now are people that turn and indicate at the same time, leaving you zero time to react to it. Never good when that happens whilst filtering!
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be a new scheme to remind people not to think


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PostPosted: 09:57 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunatly my girlfriend is exactly the same as this. She will sit in the middle lane of the motorway waiting for a gap to pull into the outside lane, and will only indicate when she is pulling into it. Confused

It pisses me off no end. She insist's she's in the right every time Rolling Eyes

I tell her that if she stuck her indicator on when she decided she wanted to go into the 'overtaking' lane, that some nice fellow driving a bmw 5 series would probably just let her into the slightly quicker stream of cars, instead of her sitting there for 10 mins looking for a gap and getting pissed off because there isn't one.

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PostPosted: 10:06 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsk you people don't know you've been born , nobody uses their indicators here anymore or properly

nobody uses indicators around these parts they just pull out , or they keep them on all day long ,

I was following this guy in a car this morning also in a car (had to carry lots of stuff) , who indicated right all the way into town,
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero-G wrote:
Unfortunatly my girlfriend is exactly the same as this. She will sit in the middle lane of the motorway waiting for a gap to pull into the outside lane, and will only indicate when she is pulling into it. Confused


That is correct to some degree, though she should indicate when she's seen a 'safe' gap, then pull into it when it is safe to do so.

I only use the tactics described above in my van (and only for the middle lane really), in my car or an a bike where I have a smidgen of acceleration I'll wait for a gap then pull into it rather than pestering people to let me in.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Highway Code has this on changing lanes
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112: If you need to change lane, first use your mirrors and check your blind spots (the areas you are unable to see in the mirrors) to make sure you will not force another driver or rider to swerve or slow down. When it is safe to do so, signal to indicate your intentions to other road users and when clear move over.
113: You should follow the signs and road markings and get into lane as directed. In congested road conditions do not change lanes unnecessarily.

and this on moving off
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135: Before moving off you should
* use all mirrors to check the road is clear
* look round to check the blind spots (the areas you are unable to see in the mirrors)
* signal if necessary before moving out
* look round for a final check.
Move off only when it is safe to do so.
Check the blind spot before moving off
https://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/images/135_blind_spot.gif

and for use of signals by motorcyclists
Quote:
71: Manoeuvring. You should be aware of what is behind and to the sides before manoeuvring. Look behind you; use mirrors if they are fitted. When overtaking traffic queues look out for pedestrians crossing between vehicles and vehicles emerging from junctions.
Remember: Observation - Signal - Manoeuvre.

Personnally if there's a lot of traffic I do check for any gaps then signal my intention to other road users so they can see what I want to do and give me the space to do it.
As it also says in the Highway Code
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85: Signals warn and inform other road users, including pedestrians...

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