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Im sure rossi and co never ride on roads, and if they did so they would be VERY careful not to break the speed limits or go over any bumps
Talent is talent. Take the winner of the TT, just like everyone else he has had to learn the course. On his first blast out I bet he was shitting it too, but he grew to know the course and he succeded.
Given time and the backing Im sure that GP riders could progress in a similar manner.
How about the flip side of the arguement. How would a TT winner fare against a world champion MotoGP rider like rossi on the track? ____________________ RS125 > CBR6 > SV650S > ZX636R > GSX1300RZ Hayabusa > 06 RSVR Mille > SV1000S > Street Triple 765 RS |
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It's a good question, but i feel they are 2 seperate and distinct disciplines.
I teach martial arts, and am often asked the question 'Which is the best martial art?' My answer is: Which is better, oranges or apples? ____________________ Space Monkey #7
Don Eladio is dead. His capos are dead. You have no one left to fight for. Fill your pockets and leave in peace. Or fight me and die!
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Jealousy, bitterness and envy are not very becoming character traits. ____________________ Space Monkey #7
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I'm pretty sure rossi has said the the TT was the only race he would not have a go at, raceing has its dangers yeh but stick some brrick walls and the odd tree and one tiny fark up and your deader than a dead thing on dead day.. ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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Remember that the TT used to be an official round back in the 50s,60s,70s etc. How good was Mike Hailwood in his day? He could do anything, ride any size of motorcycle, and still win. He even had a ten year lay off, and came back to win a TT, what other rider could perform such an incredible feat today? Okay, the machinery was a bit different, as was the track, but if anything, it was even more dangerous/required greater skill to ride like that, the competition was certainly just as fierce.
They say it takes about 3 years to properly learn the course, I doubt that the best riders in the world would have much problem learning how to be the quickest around any course in the world. Plus with the latest crop of MotoGP bikes, with proper setup, the lap times would be incredible.
Safety is a big issue, people are killed at the TT every year, but danger is part of racing, I presume it's part of the reason for doing it: being the best, being the fastest. Mind you, the TT was stopped as a round of the GP500 around 1976 because of safety; obviously the riders/machinery/technology was getting too fast for the track - it is a publicly used road for 99% of the time anyway. We can only speculater how quick the latest crop of MotoGP riders would be in a similar situation, but if they had to do it, I reckon they'd be right up there at the top of the leader boards. |
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Hi
Joey Dunlop was one of the greatest TT riders of modern times, yet did not exactly have any great success on track riding. Barry Sheen was reputed to have gone to race at the TT once, crashed very early on and refused to go back.
They are very different. With the TT there are few slow back markers to be caught up with, no real pack to race in, a very bumpy track, a substantially longer race, a far greater variation in corners, some very long flat out section, far less room for cock ups, etc.
I suspect Rossi could do well at the TT, but much of it is in the mind and knowing full well that going slightly over the limits (likely to result in a long slide down the track in a GP) could very easily maim of kill him would have a massive effect on his mind.
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