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Mr Calendar



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PostPosted: 11:41 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Using slip roads - advice? Reply with quote

Just had a discussion and got conflicting advice. This is from some riders who've done the advanced training.

Basically if on a slip road that goes down onto join a motorway/dual which side should you be on? Confused

Arrow Rider 1 says to be on the right as you'll be seen quicker by those on the road you're joining. If the slip road goes upwards to join the road then keep left.
Arrow Rider 2 says keep on the left (for either down or up slip road) as you'll have the better view across to the road you're joining and more escape options.

So who is right?, which is better?

I suspect both are right in what they've been told but someone changed the advanced training advice.
If so, what's the current thinking? (I don't have a copy of the latest Roadcraft to hand Rolling Eyes)

Any input appreciated, thanks.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say number 2 - best to go in slow so that it's easier to make speed corrections if the need arises - more time to react.

One thing to remember though, if 2 vehicles are travelling the same speed in a parallel direction, the human eye won't register it - so always make a conscious decision to look into the bypass/motorway you're about to enter.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your road speed doesn't match that of the traffic, and your anticipation of where to join the flow isnt correct, it dosent matter what lane you are in.

in my view these two things are head and shoulders above which lane you should be in.
i would say 99.9% of slipway incidents are caused by poor judgement of speed and timing.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another problem with the 'stick to the left' rule is that if Mr Nobber on his superdupersports bike comes down the slip road at 150mph then he may wel jeopardise you by overtaking you as you join the carriageway, sitting to the right protects your position.

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PostPosted: 11:56 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Whichever one is not being used, so you have more space to react should someone decide to stop on the slip road.

Beyond that, just decide on the gap you are going to use and aim for it, adjust speed upwards or downwards depending on where the gap is.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:06 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sitting to the right protects your position.


if i am being held up by a slow bike / car on a slip road ill just overtake on the inside , its not legal but neither are most of the things i do whilst riding, if your going to hold up traffic move over and let others through
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not illegal either, but if you caused an accident they could use it against you.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always tend to use the left, you have more time to see the situation, the relative position of all the triaffic before you join, and you join the motorway further ahead giving you more time to build up to the appropriate speed and slip into the traffic flow.

On slip roads, I just concentrate on getting on the road safely, theres plenty of time to pass everyone once you're on there.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
giving you more time to build up to the appropriate speed


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PostPosted: 13:03 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzz wrote:
Keen wrote:
giving you more time to build up to the appropriate speed


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ha- a GS500, not a rocket but not that bad Smile to be fair that applies more if I'm driving the girlfriend's car, but I mean when you have more room to play with, you have more time to adjust speed in order to fit into the traffic flow.

edit: fuck it, just cain it down the ramp & it'll work out naturally Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fuck it, just cain it down the ramp & it'll work out naturally


Now thats more like it! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
edit: fuck it, just cain it down the ramp & it'll work out naturally Twisted Evil


Up to about 120, then brake into a gap in the motorway traffic.

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:42 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im usually on the right, and dap into an convienient gap.

You hve to ride a bit agressively without indicators.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, you should stop worrying about whether they've seen you or not, and just assume that they haven't.

Then ride in such a way that regardless of what they do, you'll still be fine.

ie. Find your gap, and take it. Ride with intent, and don't rely on the other road users to be aware of you.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki wrote:
In my opinion, you should stop worrying about whether they've seen you or not, and just assume that they haven't.



And sometimes hope that they haven't seen you and so don't make an irrational move like a Nissan Micra I seem to remember Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i personally dont think that there is a definiaive answer, as you should adjust to the situation and ride accordingly:)
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
And sometimes hope that they haven't seen you and so don't make an irrational move like a Nissan Micra I seem to remember Thinking

LMFAO!!

I'm sure we scared the crap out of them! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 06 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki wrote:
Annabella wrote:
And sometimes hope that they haven't seen you and so don't make an irrational move like a Nissan Micra I seem to remember Thinking

LMFAO!!

I'm sure we scared the crap out of them! Laughing Laughing


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