sounding your horn?

[gimpy limp]

was just going through a few questions and surely this ain't right - sound your horn?

their should actually be a stop sign at that junction as it's a blind junction with no apparent right of way unless the car/bike is already over the junction like that car on the left is.

You wouldn't sound your horn though would you?

https://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1387/rightofway3lv.jpg

does that seem wrong to anyone else?
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[mchaggis]

Sounding your horn to warn people of your presence at a corner like that is in theory a good idea. I doubt they'd hear it with all the soundproofing, stereos and mobile phones in cars nowadays though.
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[gimpy limp]

i've heard front door bells louder than my horn
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[Vespa]

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[natv4]

In the position of the rider, I would sound my horn (and assume a safe speed)

Far better to use it and not need it, than need it and not use it.

Sometimes they will have music and sometimes not. Worth a try, but definately slow a little in case.
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[danclarkie]

a lot of country roads where i live so a good horn warning as you approach a blind corner is sometimes advisable. i dont quite know why really because if a cars coming in the opposite direction at the same speed then a blip of the horn isnt going to avoid a collision but i suppose it helps. doesnt help if there are horses round the corner i suppose, and we all know i wouldnt want to startle the horses dont we
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[The Old Geeza]

No, you MUST NOT sound your horn

A slight 'take' on what Vespa stated, you should only sound your horn to let others know your there if you might pose a danger to other road users - ie: a very sharp bend on a very narrow road or a hump back bridge on a very narrow road.

Or, if another vehicle poses a danger to yourself because they've not noticed you. In other words, a means of protecting yourself.

Think logically about what you see in the clip...

You're riding through a housing estate with loads of junctions exactly like this one. No-one has right-of-way and everyone should treat the junction with the same caution. Are you really going to sound your horn at every junction you approach like this one? I think not.

You ain't gonna be too popular with the residents, are you
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[m99dws]

[The Old Geeza]

You do have a point there, m99dws.

Most of the roads on modern housing estates do at least have broken white lines at the junctions. But they don't have to.

There's nothing wrong with the picture, and there's nothing wrong with having no road markings at all. If you ride 'off the beaten track' around these sort of places, you'll encounter thousands of junctions just like the one in the clip. They're still commonplace.

What I can't understand is that it appears this question required TWO answers. And one of the correct ones was to sound your horn. I've not 'played' with the CD's since I passed my test though

Am I missing something here, or have I got something wrong




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[quik_d]

thats question kept catching me out in practising, i would never sound my horn to let someone know i was there but thats what the DVLA deem it for so the answer is yes you'd sound it
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[Flip]

No road markings? I just wouldn't use that junction.

Not that helps with your test.

Doesn't the highway code say something like the "horn is to alert other road users of your presence". I think it does ... So it's right then. It's still an unusual situation though.

[The Old Geeza]

Think you meant the DSA quik_d ?

Yes ?




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[m99dws]

[gimpy limp]

just a bad drawing I think is all, the left car looks like it has right of way because it's already half crossing the junction almost (you'd swerve to go around it ).

just gotta work out an easy way to remember these stupid stopping distances now Their's gotta be an easy way to memorise them with as little effort put into it as possible?
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[The Old Geeza]

[gimpy limp]

nah he has right of way because in the picture he's already over the junction in the middle of the road across your path (only slightly mind - gotta look close). If their was a line their it would be behind his front wheel and he'd have right of way over you otherwise you can only go over or under him if neither of you are stopping.
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[The Old Geeza]

Sorry, gimpy limp, but you seem to have lost the point between having 'right-of-way' at a junction and someone already crossing the junction.

Yes, the car already crossing the junction must be given right-of-way, because he's already there. But he didn't have automatic right-of-way as he approached the junction.

The chances are that he approached the junction and checked for traffic like everyone else would do. There was nothing in his way so he proceeded as normal.

All of a sudden, you come along on your motorbike and have to assess the situation. As far as the law is concerned you could be in a car, riding a motorbike or pedaling a pushbike. The rules are the same.

Is any of my ranting getting through here ?

Or has logical thinking suddenly gone out the window ?

But what do I know? I'm old and decrepit
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[gimpy limp]

[The Old Geeza]

Yes, it's fun arguing over 'imaginary' circumstances.

However, if it's any consolation...

I'm most certainly not snooty, and I'm not a school teacher.

I'm an old geeza, the salt of the earth and as common as muck.

I judge NO-ONE unless they give me reason to judge them - posers and smart-arses who think they're better than anyone else should be put in their place, I think.

I consider myself to be a safe biker, since I put into practice the same tactics on my bike as I do in my car.

No fines and no points for anything whatsoever for over 30 years.

So how many bikers can claim that acolade ?

Go figure.




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[gimpy limp]

okee dokee

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[The Old Geeza]

Don't worry, gimpy limp.

I mean no offence to anyone.

I just like to offer advice (to the best of my ability) to anyone who asks - including yourself.

Be safe






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[m99dws]

[The Old Geeza]

Ya' reckon, m99dws ?

But for how long

Tell ya' what. I love riding my bike so much that I might get a ticket myself. Probably sooner than later.

I DO try to ride within the speed limits. But it ain't easy, is it ?




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[dainesefreak]

As The Old Geeza says, there does not have to be any road markings and no one has right of way. You could consider the right of way to being similar to a traffic light junction with failed lights (it does happen). You have to show caution, slow control and edge out. Obviously if a vehicle is already crossing, for that time they have right of way.

As far as the DSA go, yes they would want you to sound your horn, that's the only purpose of this question being there. Like most of the DSA test, learn it, pass it, forget it and learn to ride properly afterwards.

[gimpy limp]