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Poor anticipation of the sequence change
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I have never seen these traffic light cameras go off, and to be honest I don't know what they're main function is. From what I have heard they're meant to catch people who jump red? ____________________ Honda MBX50 | Yamaha RD125LC | Suzuki RG125F Lucky Strike | Suzuki GSF600S
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Yes, they go off if you cross the line a short time after they turn red (maybe 0.5 seconds). I don't mind the idea of these cameras, since I don't fancy being wiped out by someone jumping a set of lights. ____________________ Monster m600
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If I don't know the traffic light sequence and there's a camera visible then I'll slow down for them giving me ample time and space to stop should they change.
If you're gonna do a speed that isn't suitable for the road taking into account traffic calming measures/hazards and weather conditions then you're gonna get caught out, it's as simple as that. ____________________ Mellow Yellow
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 lightfoot256 Nitrous Nuisance
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I've nearly been caught out on these a couple of times (back when i was a learner :-p). The ones with the cameras always seem to be the ones that switch from green to red really really fast as if its trying to catch me out.
It was snowing, and I was going just under the limit (40mph), i was about 10 metres away, no cars about but the lights go orange and then red almost instantly, i hit the breaks (quite gently) but at this point im still a couple of metres infront of the line (but i think i'd already passed the sensor in the tarmark for the camera). The bike began to skid on the wet road, and I almost came to a stop in the middle of the junction but decided that i might as well go and just continued. I wasn't sure if the thing had flashed at me or not, but haven't heard anything since...
Since that night, I always move down gear and prepare to stop for any lights that im not sure about. If i've seen that they were just on red and have switched to green and have a rough idea of how long they stay on, I tend not to slow down, but if they're on green as im approaching i always presume that they're going to go red and get ready to stop.
When i did my driving lessons (not passed my car test yet :-p), my instructor told me that i should almost come to a stop at every green light just in case they turn red. Although I never see cars doing this, infact most people seem to speed up when they see amber (which is sometimes a lot safer than trying to stop...). But my bike instructor told me to just go for it, if it starts changing and you think you have enough time, just go as it's usualy safer.
Traffic lights suck... Most of the time they never switch to green for me as the sensors in the road just dont seem to trigger... my bike's quite heavy (about 170-180kg), so i either just go through red or turn around and find another way... |
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| Gazdaman |
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 Gazdaman I did a trackday!!!

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There are traffic lights by my work that dont trigger a change for my bike. It can take up to 7 mins before it changes to green!
If a car pulls up it changes in the next sequence. Really Really shit.
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 Gazdaman I did a trackday!!!

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Cameras to catch people jumping red light cameras are not on top of the lights. They are set further back facing the lights and the back of cars and bikes. Bearing in mind that you are prosecuted on the photographic evidence, they have to fill all the criteria in the photo, ie, the car accross the line, with the lights on red, showing the car's reg number. If any of these aren't fulfilled, the evidence can quite easily be argued - "How does the photo prove i was crossing on a red light?" "How does the photo prove that it was my car?" etc.
The little things on top of the lights are to sense the level of traffic and either change the lights from red to green or adjust how long the signals take to change, they are an alternative to the induction loops under the road. they DON'T have the ability the catch red light jumpers. The cameras are normally covered in that day-glo crap like the gatso's.
If you were doing just under 40, coming up to a junction, in the snow and it was apparent you wouldn't be able to make an emergency stop, you were going too fast - it's that simple. You would get shafted if you went accross on a red in that situation, and you would deserve it. It's no different to following someone and the same distance as you would on a dry summers day and be suprise when you end up in their boot.
^^That isn't a dig at anyone in particular, but more the situation.
Traffic light cameras are a great idea IMO as they stop people thinking "it's only just changed, the others won't be on green yet" it takes the safety buffer away if people do that. if a car was going accross just after they changed to red and you had set off just as the lights changefrom red to yellow, it would probably take seconds for a thread along the lines of "Fucking cagers..." "Something should be done..."
You get busted on one of those, you deserve it. Deal with it. ____________________ XJR400R, Ohlins Shocks, Brembo brakes all round, Full Digital dash, Cockpit fairing, twin lamp headlight. Lookin' Good! |
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 gimpy limp Nearly there...

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you can be on the road (over the junction mark) at red aswell as amber think it's about 2 seconds maybe 3 before it'll flash. It's to stop people doing exactly that (breaking hard). ____________________ -=[Sam/b]=- cx500's the only way to travel, we do it in style just like jimmy saville
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 248 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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