Petrol prices - crazy or what?

mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 May 2004 Karma :

The earth's core is not undergoing nuclear fusion. It is a solid inner core surrounded by a liquid outer core, mostly consisting of iron. The flow of this molten iron core creates the earths magnetic field.

Once the fusion process gets as far as creating iron, it cannot go any further, because fusion of iron atoms requires more energy to cause it than it produces as a result. There is a hell of a lot of radioactivity down there, but no fusion.
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Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

We are unlikely to see a drop in price as the oil industry wastes so much money finding the stuff and can just pass the cost onto Joe Bloggs.
If we find Joe and have a quiet word with the twat for being so generous to shell, bp, texaco, tesco's and asda maybe the price rise can be checked.

What's the difference between nuclear Fusion and Fission then?
Will we ever see a nuclear or hydrogen powered bike.
Will the effin rain ever go off?

BTW a well maintained pedal bike is the most or one of the most efficient modes of transport known.
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natv4 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Karma :

I wish I could say I can see a way this will go differently, but it seems that what with vast increases in consumption (China's consumption is set to sky rocket) and a limited supply, I think high petrol prices are inevitable.

Not neccessarily a bad thing, as others have said (Keith), it just means that other sources of energy are going to become viable. Until then, I will be checking that my future bikes have good economy as well as performance (unlike the v-tec VFR800, which seems to only achieve a rubbish 33mpg!).
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tsmith · Traffic Copper Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Karma :

i always joked if petrol went above £1 a litre, I'd go back to riding a CG125 so I could get 100mpg - now that looks like a real possibility.

At the moment I'm riding the GPZ500 slower and slower to try and save money. Getting 75mpg now and can't really get any better than that.

If petrol does go above £1 a litre there's not much point using a 75mpg GPZ at 50mph everywhere when I could be riding a CG125 at 60mph getting 100+mpg

and as for diesel...it costs far more than petrol so if I was to buy a diesel bike I would want at least 150mpg to make it worthwhile.

Middle Finger

to Tony Blair and his 80% fuel tax

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

kawakid · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Karma :

CGs seem to run on anything.

But seriously, I don't get hit by the prices too much as the bike is soo much cheaper than the car, i'm saving money by using it.

If I had a a commute, which would be Leeds for me, I would buy a commuter 125, the CG I had when i was learning, was fantastic on petrol.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Heard that theory about creating oil before, but to be honest dismissed it so much out of hand that I never bothered reading up on it.

Interesting idea. But sounds too good to be true.

All the best

Keith
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Craggles · Traffic Copper Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Davo · Davo To The Rescue! Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Karma :

Any one fancy doing an a LPG conversion for their bike?

I'm seriously thinking of ditching the car completly for commuting and either cycling to work (its only 12 miles) or getting around to assembling the CG125 in the garage, and using that.

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Adam.I · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Karma :

I remember reading when I was at school that scientists say the way we are with fuel these day, it'll have run out by 2020. I don't know what to believe. I do think that it WILL eventually 'run out', but if left long enough then it could replenish but surely that would take many many years.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Suspect they were not scientists, but teachers who were not informed. I too was told we had about 20 years worth of oil, but that was in the mid to late 1970s.

Oil reserves are quoted in proven reserves, and these can go up and down. Eg, there might be a giant oil reserve under London (unlikely I know, bear with me), but at current prices of around $50 a barrel this is not viable to extract so is not counted. Price rises to $100 a barrel and it becomes viable (yea, right) and is counted.

All the best

Keith
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mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 May 2004 Karma :

It's one of the reasons I'm considering going to Aberdeen to work in the oil industry. It's booming, not because they're necessarily pumping any more oil, but because they're getting paid so much more for the same thing.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

THCi · Nearly there... Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Karma :

Personally, I believe Oil is going to run out, not within the next 20 years, but within the next 50? Who knows.

China is gonna start taking a MASSIVE chunk of the worlds oil soon, afterall it is the most populous country on the face of the earth (or was that India?).

We could all do what they do in India, use petrol to START your engine, then run them on vegetable oil, theres a plus point in this for 2stroke owners... no need to add oil! Wink

That diesel bike looks interesting, but as someone said, diesel costs are sky rocketing as people catch on that diesel isnt as bad as it was 10 even 5 years ago. That Honda add with the rabbits and stuff comes to mind.

What ever happens, we are in for a sea of change, and soon-ish.
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THCi · Nearly there... Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Karma :

The good things about biodiesel and alcohol are that they are a renewable energy source. Which means, as we use them there will be less polution because they are actually made of that polution (crops take in carbon dioxide), in a way anyway.

Will be a cleaner planet to live in when we start using biofuels in greater volumes. Thumbs Up

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jimster · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Karma :

I think people will look back on us as the most wasteful generation ever.
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