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levi
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: CBR 900 for a first big bike? Reply with quote

well i'v been looking into getting my first big bike....

https://www.smartmoveletting.net/bike.jpg
(image ripped from google but its exactly the same)

some stuff about me and the bike :-p

im 17
it will be restricted (i have an A2 licence)
its a 1999 model
for around £1100
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you got an insurance quote for it yet?
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends. You have to question yourself on your motives for wanting it.

There doesn't seem much point to me for a first bike. But if you can afford the insurance (probably as much as the bike) and you think you can handle it then you'll probably go for it no matter what anyone says.

Not sure how well it will take to being restricted though, unless of course you going to ride it illegally.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah, dont intend to ride it illegally not enough experience for that just yet i dont think,

the insurance is free as my grandfather owns an insurance company, so that isnt a problem...



on another note anybody tell me how it will take to being restricted..
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok it's a 900 Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't restricting it to 33BHP put allot of stress on the engine as it wants to pull you down the road faster than the restrictors let it?

I don't see how restricting it could do any engine good let lone a 900cc one.

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levi
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

AzA wrote:
Ok it's a 900 Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't restricting it to 33BHP put allot of stress on the engine as it wants to pull you down the road faster than the restrictors let it?

I don't see how restricting it could do any engine good let lone a 900cc one.

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yes it is a 900, but isnt the idea of restricting it to stop it from trying to pull me down the road throwing 125hp at me :o
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just thinking on the fact that restricting the engine cant be too good for it and would put stress on the whole engine.

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PostPosted: 21:56 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's done with carb restrictor plates then it's sort of like just not opening the throttle more than about 1/4 so it shouldn't do any harm.

I doubt it will run as well as an unrestriced one would because the restrictor will mess up the laminar air flow.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 20 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha you wouldn't be able to let the clutch completely out before the restrictor kicked in. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:45 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

an older one would be reasonable to insure, but anything over 98 and worth over 3 grand will be alot.
i think because its called 'Fireblade'
like if you have a car thats 200bhp without a turbo is cheaper to insure than a 1.3 turbo because it says TURBO Wink
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Other point is that you mention it is £1100. That is VERY cheap for a 'blade. Suspiciously cheap. At that price I would expect it to be crashed or stolen.

And I really do not think a Fireblade makes a good bike for someone with next to no experience.

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PostPosted: 14:12 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Other point is that you mention it is £1100. That is VERY cheap for a 'blade. Suspiciously cheap. At that price I would expect it to be crashed or stolen.

I was thinking the same. My fathers 99 Blade cost £4000 from a dealership. Either the bike has issues or he's getting bargain of the year. Laughing

Again, regardless of the restriction, a 900 superbike would not be the best of bikes to effectively "learn" on. I often used my dads old FZR1000 at 17 and even though high powered bikes are easy to ride, its very easy to make mistakes too. You'll be better off going with something which is both user and restriction friendly, making your way up to something larger when you've got the experience. Thumbs Up

Still, its up to you. If you'd like a 900 then go for it. If your grandfather is sorting the insurance, then thats far better as at 17, a lot of other insurers would just laugh down the phone then give you a stupid figure.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does look the dogs bollocks does'nt it. Still, I'd also be suspicious of the price. If you do go for it make sure you get all the checks done that its HPI clear etc and maybe get someone you know who's mechanically minded to check over the bike if you're not into all that stuff.

Personally as a first bike at 17 I'd probably look for something a bit less powerful. If it was me at 17 with something like that I'd be tempted to use me right hand a wee bit too much ( Laughing Rolling Eyes ). Even with the ZX-6R I've just bought recently seems blisteringly quick.

Oh yeah, can I have some free insurance pleeease? Razz
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i reckon you would have more fun on a restricted 400cc sports than a fireblade and unless you are built like a brick shithouse you are gonna struggle with the weight of a fireblade at 17!
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 21 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would you like to make a sh1tload of friends?

Just let everyone here on BCF have free insurance, and your guaranteed we will love you forever! Go on champ, you know you want to! Wink

About the bike I don't think its a good idea, get a 4/5/600 maybe.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a CBR400. Similar thing to the Fireblade, but a lot safer, lighter, easier to handle, much better for a 17 year old.

Inurance will still rape you, but it won't be as much.

And you can get them from £1000.

£1100 for that bike??? There is definitely something dodgey about that. They go for £3000 at least for a '99.

What possesses people to get a superbike at 17? Confused
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know someone who restricted a slightly earlier model blade and he had problems with the plugs constantly fouling up and generally not running well.

If the bike really is legit, buy it and sell it on, then buy something that runs well restricted.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That does look the dogs bollocks does'nt it. Still, I'd also be suspicious of the price. If you do go for it make sure you get all the checks done that its HPI clear etc and maybe get someone you know who's mechanically minded to check over the bike if you're not into all that stuff.
Personally as a first bike at 17 I'd probably look for something a bit less powerful. If it was me at 17 with something like that I'd be tempted to use me right hand a wee bit too much ( ). Even with the ZX-6R I've just bought recently seems blisteringly quick.

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I have already done so, it is sound as a pound, and isnt stolen Smile and sorry no free insurance for you :-p



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i reckon you would have more fun on a restricted 400cc sports than a fireblade and unless you are built like a brick shithouse you are gonna struggle with the weight of a fireblade at 17!
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im 6'1" and weigh 16stone so im hardly small! i dont know what 17 yr olds you know but most are adult sized ^^



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I know someone who restricted a slightly earlier model blade and he had problems with the plugs constantly fouling up and generally not running well.

If the bike really is legit, buy it and sell it on, then buy something that runs well restricted.

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thats a good idea, i get the general idea i may kill my self if i do get it.... hehe



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How would you like to make a sh1tload of friends?
Just let everyone here on BCF have free insurance, and your guaranteed we will love you forever! Go on champ, you know you want to!
About the bike I don't think its a good idea, get a 4/5/600 maybe

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can you point me out some places for me to look for one then please:) thanks


any imputs for what i should get then? remember i want sports style, or sport tourer and insurance price is not an object as its free for me Smile cheers
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try on here and www.visordown.com
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for that phantom... i am going to get this CBR900 ride it for a little bit and sell it on for profit since you guys seem to think it could go for £3000+...
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 23 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's fine. Take care.

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PostPosted: 00:45 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Crazy Reply with quote

You want to go from a 125 Scooter to a 900 Superbike?

Now I know I ride a lowly RS50, but I have to say you are totally off you'r head!

Plus the gearing on the Blade will have been designed for 170mph so there will be less power in the 33bhp area, I'm not exactly sure, but wouldnt u only be able to use a few of the gears?

Get a 400 like I'm going to when I'm 17, they will be cheaper to run, and the powers more usable at 33bhp even if this is half their normal output.

And it'll still kick the asses of the chavved up boy racers cars (well maybe not the proper supras and skylines lol)!

Edit: Buy that and sell it on and buy a nice 400 and a bit of cash to spend Very Happy

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PostPosted: 01:26 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i want a 400 soooooooo much!

plenty big enough imo for a 17 year old..

then again i havnt had my own bike so the idea scares me a little Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 125 will do me nicely. Very Happy
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