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GBUK101
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 27 Aug 2005    Post subject: Places to practice on a 500 Reply with quote

Got a bit of a problem, I've got a ER-5 but haven't taken my test yet. I want to get some practice in before my test at the end of September but obviously I cannot ride the thing legally on the roads. Where can I ride the bike legally? there's a carpark at the end of the back lane from my house, can I push my bike Rolling Eyes down to that and then ride around it on there?
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think yes
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GBUK101
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

So other than the car park what other places can I ride on legally?
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priller
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the public has access to the car park I dont think you can ride there legally.
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GBUK101
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugger! Is there some site that would tell me were I can ride the bike legally?
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be able to ride anywhere that is private land and you have the owners permission.

Supermarket carparks are good (that's where I learned to ride) but you must ask and the carpark should be closed whilst you are on it.

Find out where your local training school do their off-road stuff, you may be able to use that.

Old airfields are also good if there are any near you, and gated industrial estates too.

It's useful if you have someone who can take you to a suitable site pillion on your bike, or access to a trailer!
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colin1
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think if u ride on the car park when no one else is using it , u will be fine
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pushing the bike to the carpark, is also illegal AFAIK.

I was stopped by plod taking my ER 50 home a few years ago, they said that if you have no licence/insurance ect, you were not allowed to move the bike, it has to be trailered. Rolling Eyes

They let me push it the rest of the way home though, so they might have been talking bollocks..
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fully legal it definatly has to be taxed and insured while pushing it on the road. Not too sure ont he licence though.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike is fully taxed and is fully comp with regards to insurance. I was under the impression that you could ride on a carpark because they were not classed as being a road.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much did it cost you to insure an ER5 without a license? Shocked

Hmmm... I just went through Bennetts with my details as an unlicensed rider, and the quote was £5379! You sure your insured for it?
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bennets prices are some of the highest prices around
www.ebikeinsurance.co.uk is ok
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GBUK101
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my insurance through ebike and it was £279 fully comp on a provisional licence.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Ecky thump that's cheap. I'll have to shop around a bit more next year!
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and I am 37 aswell Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might of payed for insurance but I doubt its valid.
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GBUK101
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would it not be valid?
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The carparks are subject to traffic law as far as I know. The road markings, roundabouts and giveways make them flow much more efficiently. As such, you need to have the right documentation etc, so long as they are open to public access.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 28 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure it's valid.
I'm a similar age and bought a bandit before taking my test. I was getting quotes under £200 to insure it on a provisional licence.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 29 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't think you could insure something you aint licensed to ride.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 29 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

When doing DAS training, ie with an instructor supervising, the bike would be insured to ride.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 29 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

priller wrote:
Didn't think you could insure something you aint licensed to ride.


You can.

If he was out riding it, he wouldn't be insured because he has no licence for it, but if it was stolen then it's insured.

Also, I believe a vehicle has to be insured to be on a public road (even parked) so it would be covered if someone had an accident because of it being there, however cryptic that might get. Kind of like how you're not allowed to keep a trailer on the road unless it's hitched to a car, as the trailer itself isn't insured - it's all about covering the third party that may somehow manage to injure itself on an inanimate object.


To get back to the original question, there's hardly anywhere you can ride it legally I'm afraid. If it's not private land which is not open to the public, then you're illegal. Better just to book some time with an instructor, or hire yourself a 125 for a few days and practice on that.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 29 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learnt on an industrial estate on a Sunday afternoon! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 29 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

you cannot ride it anywhere where that is a public highway, i suggest you find an industrial estate, or abandoned airfield.. always a safe bet but remember if there are streetlights there its proboably illegal to drive there without a licence Smile


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