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Have you claimed and lost out because you didn't have Fully comp
I only had TPFT when I should have got Fully blinged
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I've been sp*nking money on Fully comp for no reason
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I've never claimed
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BadDog
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: TPFT vs Fully Comp Reply with quote

Just wondered how many of you have had to make a claim and lost out because you weren't insured comprehensively. On the other hand, how many have made a claim on their Fully comp policy which would have been covered by TPFT?
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craigs23
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My NC30 was rear ended last November. I was stationary at a roundabout junction on a clear day, on a straight road, with a loud can, with my rear brake light and indicator on, 2 up. At the time I was covered with TPFT bike insured for £1500. I received £1960 for the NC30 being written off by the impact, no loss of my claims and a hire bike for 6 weeks before the money cleared in my account.

Top quality service for my one and only claim in 6 years of riding.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a claim on FC which wouldn't have been covered by 3PF&T, but you don't have an option for that. It's been my only claim, ever.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

my accident was my fault, and I was on TPF&T

wasn't a waste, cos the bike was so cheap, that it would have cost more to insure fully comp than it would have cost to replace it.

as a rule of thumb, I tend to work it out that if the cost of fully comp over 3 years is getting close to the value of the bike as I bought it, it's not worth it.

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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Only claimed once and that was tpft. Took 6 months but got everything through with a reasonable settlement.

I am fully comp on the Bandit, but that is because as you get older and with more no claims the difference becomes far smaller. Even if an incident happens where I could claim I am not that likely to unless I have to or the claim would return a fair amount more than I would loose in higher premiums over the next half a decade.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:19 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had tpo & had a accident i won the case & got £500 from his insurance so it's a claim but doesn't put anything on the cost as his insurance paid Very Happy

If my insurance paid it would be very very high, But as i only had tpo..
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
If my insurance paid it would be very very high, But as i only had tpo..


But if it was not your fault and you had claimed on fully comp, your company would have claimed from his and again you should not have lost your no claims.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:20 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Losing no claims is all people think about these days. More Than for example protect it for life, as do Direct Line?.

And NFU (National Farmers Union Laughing ) who I and my mother are with, are always superb. My brother got hit by an uninsured driver, he was in my mums name, they paid up and whacked 4 years no claims straight back on anyway. (She had 4 before the accident.)
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

a lot dpends on value of bike, and cost to repair after a small off

I know a lot of pople who have not claimed off there own policy ( there fault accident ) even though they were FC becuase of excess etc.

I am FC, but if i do come off mine then there is a real chance it will cost over £1k to re-panel and if i do claim it will be to get my money back to buy a car Embarassed or so her indoors tells me Rolling Eyes
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G
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Losing no claims is all people think about these days.

Yep, because making a claim regularly costs more in the long run that having TPO and not claiming at all.
To make a claim on TPFT insurance I would want the vehicle to be worth say 8 times the policy value - otherwise the total cost of a claim over the next five years could actually cost you more than if you had TPO in the first place and just 'wrote off' the vehicle if it was stolen.
Seems a bit screwy to end up paying out for the privelege of someone else to give you less money.

Fully comp I would want my insurance premiums to be very low, so that if I did make a claim, it wouldn't be hiking it up a lot.
After a car accident I was in last year I can see there being a case for fully comp if it's not too much extra - I was charged over £400 recovery for a vehicle I did not want and was going to be crushed, but the police wanted to keep for evidence. If I was fully comp the fee would have been paid by the insurance and would have increased the total claim by under 1% I suspect, but would have saved me a whole load. In a similar manner, the cost of the replacing the car would have been relatively little compared to the rest.
I wouldn't want to be making little claims on a FC policy though, or claims that bumped up another claim significantly.


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More Than for example protect it for life, as do Direct Line?.

They don't say they won't put your insurance premium up loads though - some insurance companies may not accept the no claims.
Also you have to have the no claims in the first place - you have to have four or five years to get it protected I believe.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie_biker wrote:
Losing no claims is all people think about these days.


To an extent true. After all that is half the purpose of no claims bonus, to put you off claiming.

Rookie_biker wrote:
More Than for example protect it for life, as do Direct Line?.


As G says, expect a loading if you claim. Years ago my father crashed his car. Own fault. Fully comp so he claimed (almost certainly worthwhile given the size of the claim). On the policy he had he only lost 2 years no claims (from full), yet his premium went from £350 to £870. Probably around £100 of that was the loss of 2 years no claims, the other £400 was just a loading for having claimed.

Looking at the More Than web site it is actually quite restrictive:-

More Than wrote:
You will be eligible for this innovative cover if:

you already have 4 years No Claim Bonus
you haven't had more than one claim for theft or an "at fault claim" in the past 5 years or
you haven't had more than 2 accidents in the past 5 years that have not been your fault.


So suspect that if you even have 2 non fault claims in 5 years then they can quite happily start ramping up your premiums.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:15 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re you prepared to claim on ur ins if u bin ur own bike?????? Do you have full 5 years no claims so you can have protected no claims!!! If you are/do get fully comp if ur not save the money and get 3rd party fire and theft!!!
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going for rock-bottom, TPO insurance from now on. The hassle involved in getting money out of an insurance company, even for a clear-cut claim is not worth the headache. They also try to screw you over at every turn.

For this reason I am only keeping bikes I can stand to loose. Like my MZ that was written off eventually. I could have bodged the bloody thing up myself for £2-300 and been back on the road on it within a week rather than getting a headache to-ing and fro-ing for four months with an insurance company. It has cost me a lot more than that insuring the thing comp for the last three years.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinkwheel,
that's a very sensible attitude to insurance. In the past I have had a few bikes worth only a couple of hundred quid, and I used to insure them TPO, because it was cheaper to get another bike than pay the insurance premium from behind after claiming.

Although I think it's worth pricing up the price of replacement plastic on a faired bike before making that decision.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

muddycoffee wrote:


Although I think it's worth pricing up the price of replacement plastic on a faired bike before making that decision.


Plastic, schmastic. If it is too broken to patch up and fit back on the bike with rivetted plates and fibreglass, it goes in the bin. Karma

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G
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
fit back on the bike with rivetted plates and fibreglass, it goes in the bin.

Rivveted plates and fibre glass? Bloody rich types Rolling Eyes.

My bikes get gaffa tape and cable ties if they're lucky Smile.
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie_biker wrote:
More Than for example protect it for life, as do Direct Line?.


Provided you stay with them for the remainder of your insurance 'life'.

Protected NCB are generally non-transferrable - I asked about this when ringing round for bike insurance cos I have enough that it's vaguely worthwhile. But not if I'm stuck with the same company year after year.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how much your bikes worth & how much the premium is, i am fully comp thank god, i had to swerve for a idiot running too wide on a corner, in the rain, then over a bloody manhole cover. BANG! still waiting for pay out. Helmet, leathers the lot Crying or Very sad Asshole didn't stopped by the way.

So if i was only TPFT i would be screwed. Tuff call if your paying a lot for FC though
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Ste
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 09 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you wouldn't, if the accident was the caused by an untraceable driver then that's dealt with by the MIB.
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