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PostPosted: 20:09 - 23 Sep 2005    Post subject: How far can you lean.... Reply with quote

.....in the wet?

Just on my way home I was hitting dry patches and wet patches. But then I was thinking it was dry when it was actually wet and cranking the bike over on a wet surface, and quite a bit too! Stable as you like!

I've kinda slatted my D207's but they seem fine in the wet.

Just wondering how far you can lean a bike in wet conditions before it all goes wrong? Do tyre companies test this?
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 23 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: How far can you lean.... Reply with quote

cc123 wrote:
Do tyre companies test this?


No, they never even thought that someone might ride in the wet. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 23 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have they not!! Feck!

Well stupid question but to what extent, if your talking sports tyres they will mainly be used on dry tarmac you think?

I've got some Yokohama's on my car but they sure never tested them in the wet because I can turn the steering wheel and the bugger keeps on going straight!! Shocked

Just wondering how far and fast you can push tyres in bad conditions before the worst happens?
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 23 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

This far. Razz
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 23 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

cc123 wrote:
Have they not!! Feck!

Well stupid question but to what extent, if your talking sports tyres they will mainly be used on dry tarmac you think?

I've got some Yokohama's on my car but they sure never tested them in the wet because I can turn the steering wheel and the bugger keeps on going straight!! Shocked

Just wondering how far and fast you can push tyres in bad conditions before the worst happens?


he's taking the piss Confused of course they test them in the wet, just some are better than others.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 23 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think cc123 was being sarcastic mate. Wink

My MT75's can't lean at all in the wet, they spin up off the throttle as well...(on a rs50) They arn't exactly the stickyest of rubber. Razz
Have had a couple of very close calls in the wet, the back slides very easily with hardly any lean.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom_ wrote:
Think cc123 was being sarcastic mate. Wink

My MT75's can't lean at all in the wet, they spin up off the throttle as well...(on a rs50) They arn't exactly the stickyest of rubber. Razz
Have had a couple of very close calls in the wet, the back slides very easily with hardly any lean.


I have the same tyres on my RS50 and I have noticed this, It was wet today and my arse end was sliding a bit sometimes.

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PostPosted: 00:19 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Shaun was taking the piss and I was being sarcastic!


Just coming into winter, when I know the road is wet I slow down but this week, its been hard to tell if the road is dry, damp or soaking through my visor. On some occasions I've hammered through wet roads and not realised it was THAT wet...


Don't want to come a cropper so was wondering how far you can push?
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one can out lean me in the wet!

But then after binning it at about 40mph on my last bike i keep is slow as possible, or even take the carwhen it rains these days
Laughing

Wet still gives plenty of grip, it's just more irratic.
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PostPosted: 02:37 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try not to lean the bike in the wet very much. Hang off like a monkey and you can keep the bike more upright.

It does work and inspires more confidence, I lean off (upper body only, not KD position) and push the bars away from my body.

I learned that from G Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 04:08 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love wheelspinning...

but it dont half wake you up when they /semi/ grip.

Went up and sideways earlier... funny as fuck but woke me up i tell thee.

And you can lean fuckloads in the wet, long as its stopped raining, you're smooth, and your tyres are warm.

Opening and closing throttle mid corner will have you off mind.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

cc123 wrote:
I've got some Yokohama's on my car but they sure never tested them in the wet because I can turn the steering wheel and the bugger keeps on going straight!!




I presume you have a 205 GTI Laughing


I don't like the wet at all, my AR125 was useless in the wet and was always sliding about, the BT45 and Dunlop Aeromax on the GPZ seem to give reasonable grip but I just don't want to find out how much.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give loads of lean on wet roads. You find out quickly how much is too much. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldn't lean d207's too far in the wet
had a pair on my zx when new and couldnt get rid of them quick enough
notoriously kack in the wet
get a set of bridgestones on and youll feel much safer.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet f.a, I hate the wet and I'm shit in it. I get really tense and nervous.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="mrchips"]
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I've got some Yokohama's on my car but they sure never tested them in the wet because I can turn the steering wheel and the bugger keeps on going straight!!




I presume you have a 205 GTI Laughing

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I have them on my 'Rocco, great grip on dry roads, may as well be wooden bands in the wet.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 24 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that far really if you don't hang off.

Here is a photo of me on 090's in standing water... and horrible conditions

https://img310.imageshack.us/img310/3028/tnimg46569kv.jpg


Heres a photo after the next bend...

https://img310.imageshack.us/img310/576/tnimg48240qq.jpg

If you hang off alot more you could probably take the bend faster but I pretty much found the lean angle limit in the wet on 090's that day Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: wetwetwet Reply with quote

Saint Matt wrote:
Sweet f.a, I hate the wet and I'm shit in it. I get really tense and nervous.


You think you're bad? I'm used to desert riding and there you tend to focus on the rear brakes to avoid the front tire digging into the sand.

You should have seen me in Thailand this past summer coming down a slope that had a turn towards the end, in the rain, and I hit the rear brakes. Almost slid of the edge of the cliff coming towards the turn with the rear wheels sliding out from under. I managed to get everything under control just before the turn and took it with my heart thumping so baaad.

And tension? My hands go numb in the rain, gripping the handles so tight Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just shows how a post can come back and bite you in the ar$e.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on suspension set up, power delivery and the kind of wet conditions too. I take it very easy on the Blade in these conditions even though the power delivery is very smooth. I'm still aware of the amount of HP it puts down through the back tyre and how much heat they tyre is likely to be carrying. In the summer it's a different story as the roads are warmer even if it has been raining.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just shows how a post can come back and bite you in the ar$e.


Yeah funnt chunt! Laughing

I was expecting someone to post but I wasn't leaning, lucky if I was about 2 deg lean onto the left side! Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

So from your recent experiment we can deduce that one can't lean that much in the wet.
How public spirited of you cc123 to provide us with the results so soon.
You walking yet?
Been to the pub?
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What Sad Distic B4start dug this gem up.....? Couldn't you flame him?
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was that Paul fooker!! I did expect this post to come back up after my wet off....

Not been near a pub, why go to the pub when I can bring the pub back to my home!!?? Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You waster you Laughing
Go well..
Now,,, Wheres that can of Tennants?
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 30 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
You waster you Laughing
Go well..
Now,,, Wheres that can of Tennants?


Don't you drink schnapps? Or maybe bacardi breezer? no?

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